Qantas under pressure to salute veterans on flights
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https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/qantas-under-pressure-to-salute-veterans-on-flights-20181104-p50dxh.html?fbclid=IwAR2TrAPOcS1q33u4Vq53nkA8z7hKLpAUuz6-C4AaYCiP4Bq_MTfeSH2dBBU
Apparently there has been a campaign in Australia to give veterans priority boarding and a personal thank you as part of the War Memorial's near half billion $ funding increase.
Virgin Australia has said they'd give veterans priority boarding and thank them for their service on the flight.
This is fucking gross pageantry
$10 says enlisted veterans cringe every time someone salutes them.
Salute them? I hate it when people salute out of uniform, or if my family/friends do it in public as a joke when I am gone for a while. It is just plain awkward and unnecessary. Priority boarding is nice though.
I thought civilians weren't supposed to salute, since it's a military sign.
Any vet worth their salt would turn this down
I'd be so damn uncomfortable with this. This just virtue signalling.
If you force someone to do a salute it's completely stripped of any weight or meaningfulness, all this will do is water down real salutes and make the whole gesture worthless. How about we treat veterans like people instead of putting a black and white campaign into place that will do nothing but dehumanise them.
Not Australian, but still a combat veteran here. There are two types of veterans. Personally, I never use my veteran status for benefit, I don't want to be thanked for my service by random people and I certainly don't want to be saluted. There are a spectrum of reasons to salute but the most common one is between officers and subordinates. I don't want a civilian saluting me because they aren't my subordinate and I sure as goddamn fuck was not an officer, I actually put work in.
But there are an entire spectrum of Vetflakes, the "Thank me for my service" types, who feels like the world owes them everything. The type of dude who has a military motivational tattoo on his bicep and wears gaudy Grunt Style t-shirts, walking around with a Desert Storm Vet baseball cap and a pair of stupid Oakleys. They love the attention.
Honestly, I'm not a veteran but regardless when people go overboard with greetings or whatever as I'm in uniform I always feel uncomfortable. Worst case was taking the bus home once from an exercise and everyone just fell silent and kept staring.
I mean, a nod or whatever works but when people start throwing around salutes and stuff it just feels odd. Thanks for the respect but I'm just an ordinary person like you.
I'd be fine with priority boarding since a few airlines in the US do it and it just makes my life easier but holy fuck if a civilian saluted me I'd cringe so hard I'd tear a hole through the bottom of the plane.
I think veterans get priority boarding in America
i don't think veterans get shit from anyone here besides lip service
I've had an instance where I've had my seat upgraded to 1st Class because I'm military.
But that kinda requires them to have the seat that's open or available to be upgraded, but otherwise if I travel I try to remain fairly inconspicuous because you're a target if you show off that you are military. Hell I barely wear any gear that says I'm in a Marines, save for maybe a jacket because I don't want to be singled out as a potiental threat/target if someone's looking to go around and cause trouble. There's a number of people in the US that do not like the military in general and are willing to try and square up to people that are.
not afaik, but active duty armed forces definitely do
This sounds pretty lip servicey to me
Financial and emotional support for veterans? Nah fuck that, they need "I warred!" badges and airline staff saluting them as they get to get on the plane before everyone else!
Honestly if someone (a civilian, anyway) is forced to salute you they might as well not be saluting you.
It's the authentic experience. Every salute I've ever given came with the threat of getting my ass chewed if I didn't
This whole 'veteran respect' thing is so damn weird.
Like what if you're just a storeman or clerk do you get like +5 respect also
No because there's no jingoist culture of wanking off clerks for their service with empty gestures. It's just this short-sighted nationalist affliction of celebrating military pop culture but not wanting any part in taking care of their troops because that would entail engaging with healthcare and mental treatment and those are just liberal communist concepts born from cuckoldry, amr
Generally I agree about shows of respect, but I have to point out that in military, where saluting is used, you literally are forced to salute
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