• E.T., we’re home - Earth’s “porch light” to attract alien astronomers
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https://news.mit.edu/2018/laser-attract-alien-astronomers-study-1105
Wasn't broadcasting our position something Stephen Hawking explicitly warned against?
i like how the embedded image is a picture of earth the moment before getting disintegrated by an alien superweapon
Why exactly? Thinking they'd fuck us up?
So what will happen first? A.I. destroys us, aliens destroy us, or we destroy ourselves?
Like a sign that says "wet paint, do not touch." Doesn't matter. We were going to do this no matter what.
Pretty much. A race capable of traveling to here could easily wipe us out in a few seconds.
Yes. He basically said if we take our civilization as a precedent there is a chance ET's wouldn't afford our demise any more concern than we do that of a colony of ants.
I think the last option is the most likely great filter,
I find the idea of calling aliens extremelly silly. I'm all in for discovering new stuff out there but knowing our current mindset we will invite them to come here just to try to kill them if they respond. I can't explain this without a wall of text but it also bugs me when in this kind of topics we all say that a contact with any form of alien life has to end in instant anihillation for us without any possibility to defend ourselves. We are resilient beasts capable of turning everything into a weapon and 20000 years from now on should be enough to not be as defenseless as we think we are.
How else are we gonna know what alien titties looks like
If an alien species gets here, it will be a species that has no material wants, because pretty much everything will be at it's finger tips, there are no shortage of resources in the universe when you can get from one place to another. So...should be fine...probably.
Why does everyone think beings more intelligent than us would wipe us out without thought? I'd like to think that beings more intelligent than us (and technologically advanced enough to travel the light-years to get to us) would be less susceptible to the fallibilities of lesser intelligences I.E. mindless violence.
The fear of something super intelligent and hostile is one concern. Not to mention Earth's defenses are pretty much terrible in the event of an ET invasion of some kind. I don't really care what Hawkings had to say about aliens cause besides his intelligence he was also a preachy asshole. Then again, Earth doesn't have anything the rest of the Solar System doesn't have.
Irrational fears. And you're wrong. Earth has life. That's something rare and something I'd bet super-intelligent beings would want to preserve.
Can't wait to meet distant moth civilizations. and bone
And what happens when the Earth is taken to intergalactic space court because our laser blinded a space pilot and caused an accident? You have 30 days to answer a summons and the Andromeda Galaxy is 2.5 million lightyears away.
I don't think it's the best idea to let others know we are here, but at the same time, we might meet some aliens that want to help us, never know.
That is until they enslave us as workers and pets for sport, pleasure, and profit.
I mean Europe was extremely advanced compared to the Native Americans, and it didn't take long before we took over the entire Northeast, then spread until there was no more native land. The idea is humans are cunts, and we have no good reason to suspect aliens wouldn't also be cunts.
I don't think it's fair to compare how humanity acted during our developmental history compared to a presumably ancient alien race with an immeasurable amount of time to develop it's culture. The fears will always be there but humanity kind of has no choice but to try and contact other intelligent life by any means possible. What's the alternative? Rot here on Earth until we 'feel' we're capable enough of defending ourselves on an interstellar scale?
Who's to say they haven't already popped by for a visit anyway? I mean, it only takes ONE of the many UFO videos to be authentic, and not some test craft by some nation. If we are already looking at planets we can colonize at our primitive level, a species that was able to evolve without any extinction level events could have done that before we even began walking upright. If they haven't been here yet, it's probably likely that they've marked our planet as a candidate for a visit. Which is cool.
Why in gods name would you do any of these when slavery doesn't even work very well in our automated society, not to mention one that's star-spanning
I present to you the Self Replicating Probe a la Fermi Paradox https://pastebin.com/66qntM33 All it takes is one civilization out there having already started that process. We're already fucked before we even had a chance.
The fact that the mental gymnastics here to justify fear of extraterrestrials is literally an essay long isn't convincing me of anything. This scenario is basically using the logic of "well people could launch nukes at us and kill us so we better launch nukes first" and I'm not going to go through the work to explain why that is awful xenophobic reasoning if you can't see it yourself. If there was an intelligent race with the technology and resources to get here after receiving our signals we should be eagerly awaiting them instead of fearing them. They could very well possibly end human suffering and we'd be free to think about things other than survival or basic needs.
From anyone who has ever worked on any engineering project involving aerospace/rockets/engines/space know that it's more complex and difficult and requires more manpower and time than any reddit post or article can imagine, so don't be so quick to fall for the large paragraphs with fancy words.
This is entirely based on the idea that everything follows the same fundamentals and that these concepts matter to anyone but the human race (and even then not the entirety of it.) What makes you think that a hyper intelligent being from another galaxy wouldn't be a psychopath by our standards?
A psychopath intelligent enough to leave their own planet and explore space? I mean it's technically possible they could be hostile but I would like to give them the benefit of the doubt.
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/242634/67eee8e6-cc3b-47ac-b65f-d7103d686e11/image.png Here you go.
A "porch light"? Do you want Hell-stars? Because that's how you get Hell-stars!
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