Nancy Pelosi isn't guaranteed to be the next Speaker of the House - Polidicks

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-nancy-pelosi-isnt-guaranteed-the-speakership/ The Democrats have won the House, and Republicans will have to hand over the speaker’s gavel in January. But it’s not totally clear whom that gavel will go to. The long-running drama over the fate of House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi is entering a new phase. It has been clear for months that Pelosi might not have enough Democrats behind her to become speaker. Some incumbent House Democrats oppose the California Democrat because they believe it’s time for a new figure to lead the party, which Pelosi has done since 2003. And dozens of Democratic candidates, facing a barrage of attacks from Republicans linking them to Pelosi, pledged during their campaigns not to support her in a speaker vote. Of course, many of Pelosi’s critics were running in very red districts — so they lost. Before the election, NBC News and reporter Ally Mutnick of the National Journal put together lists of Democratic candidates who said they would not support Pelosi either for Democratic leader or for speaker if the Democrats took control of the House. Combining their research with ours, we identified at least 63 anti-Pelosi candidates — 21 of whom won their elections. With a handful of races still unresolved, Democrats have won 224 seats — that number is likely to increase, but it’s hard to see them winning more than 235. Even at that high mark, Pelosi would be four votes short of 218 if the 21 Democrats followed through on their pledge not to support her. The anti-Pelosi faction includes 11 incumbents, some of whom have long been critical of her, like New York’s Kathleen Rice and Ohio’s Tim Ryan. The other 10 will be joining the House with the new class of members in January. The most direct way for Pelosi to become speaker is that at least a few of these anti-Pelosi members backtrack on their campaign pledges. Could that happen? Maybe. Nine of the 21 anti-Pelosi candidates won by more than 20 percentage points. It’s unlikely that voters in fairly liberal-leaning areas will vote out their members in November 2020 over a pro-Pelosi vote in January 2019. Also, it’s not clear there is an obvious person with broad support to replace her, so other House Democrats might convince the anti-Pelosi wing that there is no real alternative. Let’s finish by saying clearly: Lots of gossipy stories about internal Washington machinations ultimately don’t matter. This one does. With Trump in the White House and Mitch McConnell in charge of an enlarged Republican majority in the Senate, the Democratic speaker will have a huge role in determining exactly when and how the party tries to constrain Trump, as well as how or if House Democrats try to work with him on major issues. The Democrats are also trying to come up with a strategy that will increase the chances that the party’s 2020 presidential candidate will win. And the Democrats in the House will have a fairly diverse group both demographically and ideologically. So the speaker has to satisfy not only liberals like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York but also moderates like Conor Lamb of Pennsylvania. None of this will be easy.

In the last ten years the Democrats have been completely wiped out under Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer's leadership. She's objectively bad at her job, and she's ideologically opposed to many of the big policy positions the Democratic base supports. She's gotta go.

Trump gives her respect. That's a huge red flag that she's bad for business. The republicans want her more than the democrats benefit from her.

The Republicans want her because they know she'll run the Democrats into the ground again.

Good, She was along other reasons why Real remaining Left-wing party members were begun disillusioned with Democratic Party in first place.

She is machine politics to the core and it has strangled the party and even further worked over the country.

"Here's how Bernie can still win."

Good riddance. Hope she gets the boot. She's like a weaker willed and even less liked version of Hillary.

If Democrats want to get slaughtered again, just elect Pelosi to house speaker. Its telling when one of the selling points of some democrat candidates this election was "I won't vote for Nancy Pelosi" Not only is she another embodiment of establishment politics, but she has so many bad quotes that make her and the party look stupid.

Alexandria. Ocasio. Cortez.

hope she fucks off to the shadowrealm.

This would be disastrous. Speaker of the House is meant to be a respected, senior official who has the political clout and talent to get a bunch of disparate members of congress with competing interests to focus on certain issues. Ocasio-Cortez is a first-term brand-new congresswoman. Nobody would pay attention to her, and nobody knows how she's going to fare in congressional politicking. Pelosi's clearly competent for the role, but I hope the DNC has learned that pushing for politicians with complicated and controversial baggage-filled history might not be the best idea. Pelosi is literally the most obvious choice possible. Nobody else really fits the bill that well - meaning she'll almost definitely get it. I hope that somebody else can step up to the role, but it's hard to say who else would fit.

Definitely not yet. I'm so incredibly happy Ocasio-Cortez is in the House now, but she should by no means rushed into a higher position. Like, dude, she literally just got elected to her first political position. What are you thinking?

I mean I definitely don't think Cortez should become speaker of the house given her complete lack of experience and likely relationships with the rest of congress, but I don't think any of the 'norms' of the US gov should be followed anymore tbh. Like for what reason should the speaker have to be some old fart that can barely come to grips with the times? Pelosi and Schumer have shown themselves to be utterly useless despite genuinely having "respected" status as well as "political clout and talent"; so why is that a standard to uphold? Changing times call for leadership from the group who will face these issues personally, not some 60+ year old "senior officials" that have shown themselves to be woefully incapable of adapting or working with their base. Cortez doesn't have the experience yet, but I really do think the Dems should aim to install someone their rapidly growing base(among the youth) can actually relate to somewhat, like at least below 50 years old.

Sorry fucking what lol, what ridiculous hyperbole. Voted YES on reauthorizing the Violence Against Women Act. (Feb 2013) Voted YES on prohibiting job discrimination based on sexual orientation. (Nov 2007) Voted NO on Constitutionally defining marriage as one-man-one-woman. (Jul 2006) Voted NO on making the PATRIOT Act permanent. (Dec 2005) Voted YES on enforcing against anti-gay hate crimes. (Apr 2009) Voted YES on funding for alternative sentencing instead of more prisons. (Jun 2000) Voted NO on more prosecution and sentencing for juvenile crime. (Jun 1999) Voted YES on maintaining right of habeas corpus in Death Penalty Appeals. (Mar 1996) Voted NO on making federal death penalty appeals harder. (Feb 1995) Voted YES on replacing death penalty with life imprisonment. (Apr 1994) Voted NO on military border patrols to battle drugs & terrorism. (Sep 2001) Voted NO on prohibiting needle exchange & medical marijuana in DC. (Oct 1999) Voted NO on subjecting federal employees to random drug tests. (Sep 1998) Legalize medical marijuana. (Jul 2001) Voted NO on opening Outer Continental Shelf to oil drilling. (May 2011) Voted NO on barring EPA from regulating greenhouse gases. (Apr 2011) Voted YES on enforcing limits on CO2 global warming pollution. (Jun 2009) Voted YES on tax incentives for energy production and conservation. (May 2008) Voted YES on tax incentives for renewable energy. (Feb 2008) Voted YES on investing in homegrown biofuel. (Aug 2007) Voted YES on removing oil & gas exploration subsidies. (Jan 2007) Voted NO on scheduling permitting for new oil refinieries. (Jun 2006) Voted NO on authorizing construction of new oil refineries. (Oct 2005) Voted YES on increasing AMTRAK funding by adding $214M to $900M. (Jun 2006) Voted YES on barring website promoting Yucca Mountain nuclear waste dump. (May 2006) Voted NO on deauthorizing "critical habitat" for endangered species. (Sep 2005) Voted NO on speeding up approval of forest thinning projects. (Nov 2003) Campaign finance reform to reduce role of money in politics. (Nov 2013) Convert Congress from auction house to arena of ideas. (Jun 2006) Voted NO on requiring photo ID for voting in federal elections. (Sep 2006) Voted NO on restricting independent grassroots political committees. (Apr 2006) Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits about obesity against food providers. (Oct 2005) Voted NO on limiting attorney's fees in class action lawsuits. (Feb 2005) Voted NO on restricting frivolous lawsuits. (Sep 2004) Voted YES on campaign finance reform banning soft-money contributions. (Feb 2002) Voted NO on banning soft money donations to national political parties. (Jul 2001) Voted YES on banning soft money and issue ads. (Sep 1999) Voted NO on the Ryan Budget: Medicare choice, tax & spending cuts. (Apr 2011) Voted NO on repealing the "Prevention and Public Health" slush fund. (Apr 2011) Voted YES on expanding the Children's Health Insurance Program. (Jan 2009) Voted YES on overriding veto on expansion of Medicare. (Jul 2008) Voted YES on giving mental health full equity with physical health. (Mar 2008) Voted YES on Veto override: Extend SCHIP to cover 6M more kids. (Jan 2008) Voted YES on adding 2 to 4 million children to SCHIP eligibility. (Oct 2007) Voted YES on requiring negotiated Rx prices for Medicare part D. (Jan 2007) Voted NO on denying non-emergency treatment for lack of Medicare co-pay. (Feb 2006) Voted NO on limiting medical malpractice lawsuits to $250,000 damages. (May 2004) Voted NO on limited prescription drug benefit for Medicare recipients. (Nov 2003) Voted YES on allowing reimportation of prescription drugs. (Jul 2003) Voted NO on small business associations for buying health insurance. (Jun 2003) Voted NO on capping damages & setting time limits in medical lawsuits. (Mar 2003) Voted NO on allowing suing HMOs, but under federal rules & limited award. (Aug 2001) Voted NO on subsidizing private insurance for Medicare Rx drug coverage. (Jun 2000) Voted NO on banning physician-assisted suicide. (Oct 1999) Voted NO on extending the PATRIOT Act's roving wiretaps. (Feb 2011) Voted YES on requiring FISA warrants for wiretaps in US, but not abroad. (Mar 2008) Voted YES on Veto override: Congressional oversight of CIA interrogations. (Mar 2008) Voted NO on removing need for FISA warrant for wiretapping abroad. (Aug 2007) Voted NO on allowing electronic surveillance without a warrant. (Sep 2006) Voted NO on continuing intelligence gathering without civil oversight. (Apr 2006) Voted NO on federalizing rules for driver licenses to hinder terrorists. (Feb 2005) Voted NO on continuing military recruitment on college campuses. (Feb 2005) Voted NO on building a fence along the Mexican border. (Sep 2006) Voted NO on preventing tipping off Mexicans about Minuteman Project. (Jun 2006) Voted NO on reporting illegal aliens who receive hospital treatment. (May 2004) Voted YES on extending Immigrant Residency rules. (May 2001) Voted YES on more immigrant visas for skilled workers. (Sep 1998) Voted YES on extending unemployment benefits from 39 weeks to 59 weeks. (Oct 2008) Voted YES on overriding presidential veto of Farm Bill. (Jun 2008) Voted YES on restricting employer interference in union organizing. (Mar 2007) Voted YES on increasing minimum wage to $7.25. (Jan 2007) Rated 87% by the AFL-CIO, indicating a pro-union voting record. (Dec 2003) Allow an Air Traffic Controller's Union. (Jan 2006) Rated 0% by CEI, indicating a pro-worker rights voting record. (May 2012) Raise the minimum wage to $10.10 per hour by 2016. (Mar 2013) Dems must continue to be known as champion of working people. (Jun 2006) Priorities: prosperity, opportunity and security. (Jul 2004) Make America a light to the world-not a missile. (Jan 2004) Religious affiliation: Catholic. (Nov 2000) Member of the Congressional Caucus for Women's Issues. (Jul 2001) Member of the Congressional Asian Pacific American Caucus . (Jan 2001) Member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus. (Nov 2007) Voted YES on raising 401(k) limits & making pension plans more portable. (May 2001) Voted NO on reducing tax payments on Social Security benefits. (Jul 2000) Millionaire surtax on top bracket instead of Bush tax cuts. (Apr 2010) Additional surtax of 5.4% on top tax bracket. (Apr 2010) Voted YES on paying for AMT relief by closing offshore business loopholes. (Dec 2007) Voted NO on retaining reduced taxes on capital gains & dividends. (Dec 2005) Voted NO on providing tax relief and simplification. (Sep 2004) American People's Dividend: Give $300 to every person. (Feb 2001) Supports "Fairness Doctrine" requiring balance in talk radio. 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So what anymore, And during in Obama era, She suddenly becoming out of touch by ever change ideologically party members as they moving more left-wing (both socially and economically) after Trump’s win.

Maybe because public perception was engineered against her to be a pariah. You are not immune to propoganda.

What propaganda you talking about? And please respelling word Propaganda right, from guy who cannot controlling my grammar.

Imagine becoming one of the most successful speakers of the house in modern history, rallying your caucus to push through a landmark healthcare bill, including votes from members who know full well they could lose their seats, leading the charge on progressive issues, becoming second to none in your ability to rally funds, support, and unity, all to have a group of mouth breathing retards shout you down for not adhering to fact-devoid shitposts by leftists.

Republican propaganda that paints people like Pelosi and Hillary as fucking Pariahs, even to leftist idiots like you. Can you cite any reason to dislike her besides "Grrr not progressive enough"? I fucking support DSA btw, so don't dismiss me as "centrist troll". Please, give me actual positions she holds and votes and points she's made to dislike. The obamacare she got passed in the house had the public option, the senate with Joe Liberman killed it. I can think of a few criticisms of her myself, but nothing surmountable enough to call her "A republican leading the democrats."

Plus, I looked up where you referred she “is” member of Congressional Progressive caucus, Well she isn’t member anymore for while ever since she becoming House (minority) leader and likely “ideological shifting” during that period.

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/medicare-for-all-public-option-nancy-pelosi-house-majority/2018/06/07/id/864844/ wow she supports Medicare for All, or at minimum a public option. Shocker.

You freaken joking, I clearly don’t believe their crap as kid. And I preferred only (less attempted not being biased ones) Left-wing Alternative media from YouTube left like Secular Talk or Humanist Report.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/391214-pelosi-medicare-for-all-should-be-evaluated-if-dems-win-house Literally has a video in the newsmax source btw. Also you don't have to be a republican or support their policies to buy into their propaganda in certain areas. She has ALWAYS supported a public option, and is open to medicare for all. She also opposed Bill Clinton's welfare reform. Almost like the political transformation she had was becoming Speaker of the House and then being a prime target for hatred? There's plenty of things I can criticize her on, not meeting some arbitary purity test of not being progressive enough and the vague notion of being "CORPORATE DEMONRAT" isn't one of them.

Sure, even dare criticized Democratic Politicians current actions and who tires to pandering left-wing party members who fell disfranchise by ever lean Right-wing DNC. Is somehow automatically 'Republican propaganda due of tribalistic crap' but not also Anti-Democrat but non-partisan (and Anti-)Republican propaganda? But regardless, Its pretty too late for that anyway, especially she done on herself to adopting DINO/Republican-like behavior on others issues e.x Economical or International issues has made people minds up and especially within more left-wing and anti-establishment circles in Party.

what the hell is republican-like behavior? is this a "no true scotsman" type of deal?

I'm not a Republican. And I clearly hating that party on any reasons but I have right to criticized the Democratic Party current actions (especially with most politicians like Pelosi).

ok. but what do you mean by the phrase "republican-like behavior"? is there a certain metric for this or is it just them not conforming to your image of a democrat?

If you heard DINO (Democrat In Name Only), Which is that supposedly accusing certain Democrats like Pelosi for not feel along to modern current state of party's standards. That was why I calling out her for having 'Republican-like behavior'.

Scroll up, look at her voting record, and tell me she's a "Democrat in name only"