Trump admin to let employers deny birth control insurance for religious reasons - Polidicks

https://www.aclu.org/blog/reproductive-freedom/birth-control/trump-administration-thinks-your-employer-should-make-your The Trump administration moved forward on Wednesday in its quest to give businesses and other institutions a license to discriminate by issuing a regulation allowing employers and universities to deny health insurance coverage for contraception — currently required by law — if they object because of religious or moral views. The move could leave thousands of people across the country without contraceptive coverage. The Affordable Care Act requires that insurance plans cover birth control and other critical women’s preventive services without a co-pay or other cost-sharing. This provision, which took effect in 2012, expanded access to health care and was an important step toward gender equality. Thanks to the ACA’s birth control benefit, an estimated 62 million people now have co-pay free insurance coverage for birth control. After it took effect, women saved $1.4 billion in out-of-pocket costs on birth control in one year alone. It’s an incredibly popular provision of the ACA, so it’s no surprise that the Trump administration waited until the day after Americans cast their ballots in the midterm elections to partially undo it. The administration began its effort to undo the ACA’s birth control benefit in 2017, issuing what is known as interim final rules, which can only be finalized after the public has had a chance to comment on them. Attorneys general in California and Pennsylvania challenged the interim rules, and courts in both states issued nation-wide injunctions prohibiting the rules from being enforced. Because the final rules released Wednesday still allow virtually any employer or university to claim a religious or moral exemption to deny its employees or students insurance coverage for contraception, we expect courts to be asked to block enforcement in those ongoing legal cases. This week's announcement is only the latest in a series of moves by the Trump administration to use religion to discriminate. In December, it argued at the Supreme Court that the Constitution allowed a bakery to refuse to serve a gay couple a wedding cake for their reception. In January, the Department of Health and Human Services proposed regulations permitting hospitals and other health care providers to refuse even to refer patients to services they didn’t support, like abortion or transition-related care — proposals that would be devastating for women and the LGBTQ community. And in October, the administration argued that the nation’s civil rights laws do not bar discrimination against LGBTQ people.

This is just absolute bullshit no fuck you

but..... birth control isn't always used as a contraceptive, it has other medical uses as well. Not to say that this decision is stupid as fuck regardless.

This type of garbage is absolutely not acceptable

Enjoy your drop in productivity due to unpaid maternity you stupid fuckers. Forget shooting yourself in the foot, this is like trying to rocketjump in real life.

Fuck this administration.

Can we jettison Trump into the sun yet?

I've never quite understood why conservatives are super anti-contraceptives, but will bitch about poor people having too many babies so they can get more from their welfare checks. And not only that they say they are anti-contraceptives because of religious reasons, but don't give a god damn thing about the baby once it's born. There are thousands of kids that end up in the foster care system every year, but they give a fuck about them. It doesn't make any sense to me.

Might aswell let the aids and the cancer ravage your country aswell He could use more coal and military money

According to many religious organizations, sex should only be had for the express purpose of birthing children.

It's just so they can feel superior, and get mad at everything the other people do.

I want a bunch of CEOs to just start acting like fundamentalist muslims/jews under the guise of "religious freedom" just to bait people that support these regulations into getting mad and then suddenly argue against religious freedom when it's not them

How about we don't force religious beliefs onto others.

sorry honey it's one nation under GOD sorry if you don't like it /s

That's not how (major) religions work I'm affraid. Spreading is important part.

Because evangelicalism isn't actually christianity. It's a hybrid of cherry picked quotes from the bible and the worship of America and capitalism. The "prosperity" gospel is at the center of this: the belief that if you're rich and healthy, it's because you love god, and if you're not, it's because you don't love him enough. They have literally replaced the gospel of Jesus Christ with that of "pulling yourself up by your bootstraps," and yet they still call it christianity. And thus they have no interest in helping the poor, but they also expect everyone in the country to follow their "moral" standards, because they're convinced that the reason people suffer in this country is because of their immorality. So if they take welfare away and ban abortion, the believe the promiscuous bitches will stop having sex outside of marriage, and then god will stop pushing them for their "sinful" decisions.

If a right wing trump voter were denied anything out of 'religious reason', they would scream bloody murder. "This is oppression, so much for the tolerant left, you commi globalist sjw alt-left antifa cuck"

Religion is a danger to everyone. Having your actions in the one and only real world be affected by the infinitely blissful paradise fairy world is not only intellectually vapid and laughable, but dangerous and unjust.

See this? This kind of shit is why I am 100% certain that "pro-life" people do not actually believe abortion=murder. Let's just assume, for a couple paragraphs, that it is, that a single fertilized cell is ethically indistinguishable from a human life. And, let's also accept that the majority of the country does not believe that, and changing that public opinion is at best going to take years of work, and in the worst case is never going to happen. If you're actually following any sort of coherent ethics, that means almost any other ethical imperative can be compromised if it reduces abortion rates. Even if you think the gods frown on premarital sex, they have to frown on murder even harder, so any sort of contraception should be a priority for pro-lifers, not something they fight. They should be handing out condoms and IUDs in churches, teaching sex ed in Sunday school. Gay marriage? Well, it's not scriptural, but on the other hand it produces a larger body of parents who can't conceive naturally and must adopt, thereby reducing the perceived harm of immediately giving a child up for adoption at birth, thereby decreasing the pressure to abort, so... fuck it, we should be fighting for gay marriage too. Porn? Well, it's hard to get a tissue pregnant so sure, let's clear the way for it, maybe pass some California-style "must use proper protection on-camera" laws. Socialized healthcare? It may not be the small-government ideal we want but if it covers birth control, it's still a net positive. "Mass murder" is clearly a bigger issue than abstract concerns of philosophy, after all. But we don't see any of that. We see them fighting any sort of birth control, not just abortion. And it clearly cannot be because every single one of them is too stupid to come up with the idea. There's at least a hundred million of them in the US, even if they average a standard deviation below mean IQ, thousands of them should have come upon this idea independently. Therefore I have been forced to conclude that "pro-life" groups collectively do not believe a fetus is ethically equal to a human being. They merely believe that they believe that - they go through the motions of "affirming" that belief without actually acting as though it were true. The only ones who actually act as though they believed it (and not merely like they believe they believe it) are the ones going around shooting up Planned Parenthood clinics. And even then, they're suboptimal - you'd stop way more abortions by driving cross-country handing out prophylactics than shooting a couple doctors. The other alternative is that they have an extremely warped sense of ethics - namely, they perceive premarital sex as a worse crime than murder. And at that point, there's no arguing with them because they have such a different foundation for their ethics that I can't even imagine being able to talk about ethics, let alone debate. (And I find it likely this is not their actual belief, because they go around waving bloody dolls and screaming about murder, not hollering about how it lets people have sex without being punished for it.)

This. It's really helpful for those with Endometriosis, which effects over 11% of women

Your other alternative is actually the real reason. Because taking the bible one hundred percent literally, especially to the degree that fundamentalists, does in fact require you to consider premarital sex worse than murder. In fact, it requires you to consider every kind of sexual activity outside of a heterosexual married relationship to be that sinful. Because... god said so. The OT laws (of which the most extreme Evangelicals want to use as actual standards for this country's law, despite the fact the New Testament says you can't expect non-jews to follow OT laws) require that two people who bed be put to death if the woman is betrothed to someone else (Cause arranged marriage is "godly." Where did you think Roy Moore and the people who marry off their teenage daughters to older men got their moral code from?). Also, anyone who is gay has to be stoned too. And the same god who supposedly made all these laws also demanded his people commit genocide against the people living in Canaan at the time of the Exodus. Really, it's not surprising in the least that your sense of ethics would be skewed as hell if you base it on several thousand year old texts that were written solely for the purpose of enshrining a mythological origin story in the Jew's culture, so the descendants of the first yahweh worshipers could justify whatever kind of murderous campaigns they conducted (like most every other civilization at the time). Why do you think christians branding african slaves as sons of caanan was so effective back in the 1800's? Because all the Christians back then already accepted that genocide was acceptable if god said so, so all pro-slavery shitlords had to do to get people on their side was to erroneously tie africans to an ancient race that the culture at large believed their god had "righteously" ordered executed wholesale.

Unplanned pregnancies for poor people keep them poor, and keeps the socio-economic status quo. No contraceptives or sex ed results in unplanned pregnanices which gives you power to cast out members of your community and lets you wield your cult like a weapon. Why wouldn't they like it? Evangelicals aren't about right and wrong, rather hierarchy and tradition. (Like so many other regressive religions)

This isn't even for the religious. This is just so companies don't have to pay insurance and (eventually when some more laws are cut) can fire women freely (especially if they get pregnant) with impunity because 'religious reasons'

Then GG on fucking up the economy and employment rate.

Not like these companies really give a shit about the economy outside of their profit margins.

This admin doesn't give the slightest fuck about separation of church and state, do they?

The Republican party sure doesn't. https://forum.facepunch.com/pd/buakx/GOP-candidate-Islam-is-Satanic-Jews-and-Muslims-must-convert-to-Christianity/1/ https://forum.facepunch.com/f/pd/btciy/North-Carolina-GOP-candidate-God-is-racist-Jews-are-descend-from-Satan/1/ https://forum.facepunch.com/pd/bubax/Matthew-Whitaker-said-non-Christians-shouldn-t-be-judges-would-block-them/1/ https://forum.facepunch.com/pd/buaca/GOP-Rep-created-manifesto-calling-for-a-Christian-state-and-death-of-infidels/1/ https://forum.facepunch.com/f/pd/bties/Sessions-announces-new-religious-liberty-task-force/1/

More babies means more money spent on care of the baby, namely products, and that enhances the economy. It's down to money, that's why those shitheads are doing it.

That would mean increased demand while reducing purchasing power for unexpected parents. Great way to ruin people and get them out of the economy. This is just because the GOP is religiously pro-life, I really doubt they're banking on a noticeable increase of unplanned parents before 2020 when this'll get reversed.

Of course many of these same people turn around and cheat on their spouse. Then try and cover it up when they accidentally have a kid.