5-day-old baby dies after family pit bull attacks her in crib
Seen on FB, of course the comments were almost exclusively "ITS JUST HOW YOU RAISE THEM"
"MY PIT NEVER DID THIS"
And their pits didnt? And it is how you raise them?
Like that’s not disputable
Wow a pit what surprise
I don't think it has to do with "how you raise them" but rather how you make the introduction of the newborn to the home with an existing dog, pitbull or otherwise.
I really doubt that a dog instinctively knows what a baby human is. Depending on past experience, it could think that it's an intrusive animal and act accordingly.
I mean, hell, one time my family brought a bulldog puppy into a home with an older bulldog. The first thing he did was try to attack it. We were surprised because it was completely out of character for the older bulldog, but later realized he probably mistook the puppy for a rat which he sometimes chased out of our backyard. It was our mistake, not the bulldog's. We should have been more cautious and in control during the introduction.
Luckily we got off with only a bitten puppy. I can't imagine losing a child to this kind of disaster.
Can we not argue over a fucking dog breed for a second and think about the child?
To be fair, if you live in Florida and own a dog, it has like a 125% chance of being a pit bull.
I think people are speaking about the dog breed due to it being a very specific, significant part of the story that has had plenty of precedence with other pit bulls. It's obviously incredibly sad that this happened to a baby, but I don't know what more I can say on that subject because it's both impossible for me to get close to comprehending from the parents' perspective and extremely depressing.
Jesus Christ that's fucking terrible. Imagine pushing through pregnancy for 9 months only for your baby to dead 5 days later. No person should ever have this happen to their baby.
The baby caused her own death by being being in the crib, something that's a big no-no ESPECIALLY when she more than likely saw the fucking pit.
Wow I can't even imagine the level of trauma that the parents and grandparents experienced from this event. This is the kinda shit that fucks you emotionally for life I would imagine. I don't know how well pain receptors work in the nervous system when you're only 5 days old but I hope not too well seeing as how the poor child was "somewhat responsive" when the EMTs arrived.
I dunno, honestly, if the breed is relevant. This is kind've a shot in the dark, but I think what makes much more of a difference is whether the animal has a sense that using aggression is a good way to solve any problems at all. If you instead condition an individual dog, and even try to select for the traits that promote passivity, to never use violence...perhaps that can actually make a serious difference, so maybe the breed does matter, but not as much as what we do to the breed???
This is why when you have babies you never ever let dogs or cats near them unsupervised until they can handle themselves around them, at least a few years old.
I wouldnt jump to blame the pit even if it does have aggressive tendancies if untrained, but the fact is animals are UNPREDICTABLE. You would be out of your mind to let them near a newborn unsupervised.
But gee, that grandmother must feel terrible that it happened while she was there.
Never let this comment die please.
Thats depressing as hell. Im sorry to the family. Big dogs are dangerous around children regardless of the breed because they are animals and are inherently unpredictable.
It has less to do with the breed and more to do with pet culture in general. A lot of people unknowingly give their pets a sense of ownership or leadership in the household. Dogs are good at understanding hierarchy, something humans don't tend to think about. I see it too often, even in my own family. Too few boundaries set for the dog to know its place, or boundaries that simply fall to the wayside because people don't enforce them. Additionally a lot of owners punish their dogs far more often than they reward them. Positive reinforcement has a greater effect than punishment. As well I believe this over punishment has an effect on the dogs personality and contributes to these violent outbursts.
Most dogs don’t bite, and if i remember correctly there’s research been done that shows Labradors attack and bite more often than other breeds
I'm pretty sure that's when provoked, and also Labradors are far more common that pitbulls
Even if you have the sweetest dog in the world, you shouldn't let it be with young children unsupervised. Especially babies
Can we not talk about the baby for a second and talk about a fucking dog breed that is constantly mistreated and abused due to a flawed negative public perception?
it’s the rate of bites as far as I remember, not just the wholesale numbers lol.
whether or not you agree or believe it, a lot of pit bulls were bred for aggression. it's a misnomer to assume that all dog breeds are of same mental fortitude.
I think what's really terrible is thinking about how lonely that household is now. They lost both the dog and the baby and I can't imagine having a hole that big in my life
Yeah, but how many deaths do Labradors cause? Like, I don't want to condemn Pitbulls, but at the same time there's a lot of tragedy surrounding the breed. I know for many cases the poor dogs were abused, but sometimes they weren't. Sometimes they were raised lovingly and still snapped. I don't know what to think, but me seeing something like this and not being surprised that a Pitbull did it is a bit of a problem.
A fuckin' 5 day old baby shouldn't be left unsupervised in general
Public perception? Miss me with that gay shit.
Out of 35 dog related fatalities this year (source) in the US, 21, sixty fucking percent, were due to pits. They're attack dogs bred psychologically and physically to kill, and violence is in their instinct.
It took me an embarrassingly long time to realise that 'pit' was not a typo of 'pet' and I just thought the first few comments were making fun of 'pits'.
Either way, it's awful that this happened. Even my dog, which is basically a cloud with eyes, can be a tad, um, boisterous(?) at times, so I agree that leaving young children unsupervised around any dog is a big no-no. Not every dog is cuddly Pinterest material.
lets just have a mass pitbull genocide then i'd say yeah?
Congratulations.
All you've proved is that dogs belonging to a breed that is the most common choice for people who desire to train dogs to kill people have, indeed, killed people.
That report, and those like it, provide absolutely zero evidence that it is the dog's breed that is the problem. It provides zero evidence for anything be the problem. It only reports the consequences, not the circumstances.
And without the circumstances, there is no reasonable action that can be done to prevent the consequences. Trying to do so would be like trying to cure an illness by treating the symptoms, not the cause.
Afaik pitbulls are no more likely to bite than other dogs, but the bite is much more likely to be fatal. They have incredibly strong jaws.
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