Anti-vaccine community behind North Carolina chickenpox outbreak
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46267038
At least they didn't get hit with an autism outbreak :downs:
More like they caught a bad case of idiot
It's 💯% fatal
Don't worry, they're all on the fast track to shingles.
The parents are probably vaccinated when they were infants, and since they've never seen any cases of these "diseases", nor have they probably ever bothered to see what they were vaccinated for themselves, they probably just think it's some kind of ploy now that they are the parents being confronted with the choice.
There is a vaccine for Chicken Pox? Since when?
I remember having to "catch it" from someone else when I was in grade school, so that I don't get Small Pox (?) later in life. Like that was something all parents did and was considered normal in my school / area.
I am vaccinated - my parents weren't anti-vac (back then at least- now they are on thin ice :/)
there's been a vaccine for chickenpox since 1984
What minute, That only work mostly in older adults as Herpes Zoster, so far in recording history.
Opposing vaccines is pretty stupid, even if it's for "religious reasons"
I did some research and it turns out the vaccine (Varicella immunization) didn't have an immunization program in Ontario until 2004 (already had my chickenpox). I think I was maybe immunized for it in school when I was getting the mandatory Tetanus and Hep shots- there was like a third shot which I don't remember right now.
smallpox has been eradicated since october 26th 1977 , chickenpox has had a vaccine for decades, and its not something you want to catch as it does put oneself at a high risk for shingles later in life but can be harmful to children as well.
Weird, guess either Alberta or Manitoba didn't have policies for administering it back in the 90's
I overheard my mom (who's antivax) talking about this to my stepdad yesterday. She was focused on the fact that chicken pox is still around which somehow proves that vaccinations are bullshit. You know. Despite the fact they were obviously working to immunize people to chicken pox.
Just curious, what are her thoughts on vaccinations then? Does she believe in some conspiracy or something? Or does she just think that they just don't work and they're a waste of money?
She inexplicably thinks that because they're not 100% flawless they're not good enough to use. So with this chicken pox thing, for example, since the vaccine didn't result in chicken pox being completely wiped out the vaccine is crap and shouldn't be used despite the fact it clearly immunizes people from getting it.
And I'm guessing she doesn't understand how herd immunity works? Or the fact that vaccines have wiped out diseases such as smallpox? Or the fact that some diseases such as chicken pox are really hard to wipe out, but the number of children getting chicken pox is declining thanks to vaccines? All evidence of hey, vaccines work.
Anti-vaxxers and their bullshit really piss me off
No, she doesn't. I've tried to explain it to her on numerous occasions.
This is the most frustrating part. Our butting heads on the subject actually came to a front when she tried to convince me she was right using evidence straight from the CDC and we simply both drew totally different conclusions from it. I saw lower numbers of those immunized illnesses and she somehow saw imperfect vaccines that aren't good enough to actually use.
Okay, so you're thinking of how cowpox prevented people from getting smallpox back in the day when smallpox still existed. Somebody realised that milk-maids were very unlikely to ever get smallpox, and it was thus deduced that infecting people with cowpox intentionally created an immunity.
Chicken pox is what prevents us from getting shingles later in life, a significantly more dangerous and uncomfortable condition.
I caught chicken pox naturally when I was a kid, although my mum has always been pro-vaccine and I've had my MMR, tetanus and TB one, etc.
No, no no no. That is completely backwards. Chicken pox actually leads to shingles later in life. If you get chicken pox you are at risk of developing shingles
Imagine thinking having an autistic kid is worse than having a dead kid.
Most antivaxxers just seem to regret they didn't get an abortion.
It seems that we're both wrong.
If you never had chicken pox as a child, can you still get the infection as an adult?
Yes. Although most cases of chicken pox occur before age 10, adults who have never contracted the infection are still at risk.
Chicken Pox and Shingles
I actually had chicken pox twice. Second time, I was in 7th grade. Covered so much of my body (under eyelids, in dick hole, anus, ear canal) and amazed doctors so much that it was so nasty and was the 2nd time, that they took pictures of me for a medical book.
I'm famous.
Can’t catch something which you’v already got.
Did they say they needed the pictures for research purposes, because I'm not so sure those were doctors.
It was only licensed in the US since 1995, so I highly doubt these parents are actually vaccinated.
Explains the "taste test".
do you think most anti-vaxxers were vaccinated in their lifetime
Many were part of the first vaccinated generation, who didn't see the epidemics that ravaged previous generations.
People forgot what plagued humanity only a few decades ago
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