• Poll: 77% of Republicans support Trump more than the Republican Party itself
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https://wthh.dataforprogress.org/blog/2018/11/22/its-trumps-party-support-for-trump-vs-support-for-the-republican-party There is some speculation as to whether the role of racism in electing Donald Trump is now a permanent fixture of the Republican Party, or if Trump and his racist rhetoric are momentary flukes of a party capable of surviving his Presidency. Many pundits have suggested that the Republican Party still retains some anti-Trump base and that the policy agenda is still largely driven by the House. At the same time, Trump’s most ardent critics either lost primaries or retired (such as Jeff Flake). The Republicans most apathetic toward Trump (such as Love and Curbelo) were knocked out of swing districts. So who controls the GOP? To investigate this question, we asked Republican respondents in our What The Hell Happened survey to evaluate whether, overall, they were more supportive of Donald Trump or the Republican Party. Specifically, respondents were asked, “Do you consider yourself more a supporter of President Donald Trump or a supporter of the Republican Party?” Among the 1,355 Republicans in our survey asked the question, fully 61 percent said they were a “Trump supporter, strongly” vs. just 9 percent who said they were a “Republican Party supporter, strongly,” with 16 percent favoring Trump “somewhat” and 12 percent favoring the Republican Party “somewhat.” In this post, we explore who preferred the Republican Party in our survey were compared to those who prefer Trump. The survey, as part of the What the Hell Happened? Project fielded between October 27 and November 7, capturing voters’ attitudes right through the election. By age breakdown, our results present a mixed picture of the future for the Republican Party. On the one hand, the next generation of Republican voters are less likely to say they support Donald Trump more than the Republican Party than those of other generations. On the other hand, the margins do not bode well for the Republican Party overall. Thirty percent of millennials prefer the GOP over Trump “somewhat” or “strongly,” while 65 percent prefer Trump “somewhat” or “strongly.” By comparison, 81 percent of Silent Generation respondents and 80 percent of Baby Boomer respondents reported supporting Donald Trump over the GOP. More work is needed to fully explore the meaning of this result. For context, it is not atypical for partisans to view an in-party President more favorably than their party. There is little public data on respondents who are required to choose one or the other, but considering individual legislators are generally more popular than parties up and down the ticket, we currently lack the longitudinal context necessary to rule whether Trump is atypically preferable to his home party compared to other Presidents.
The version of Trump that exists in people's heads is so out of touch with reality at this point that I almost think he could drop dead and his supporters wouldn't notice because he'd still be there in thier heads draining the swamp and making America great again. Trump is the Right's imaginary friend.
How about that
sheep
Trump is tied with or slightly beating Ronald Reagan's approval ratings at the same point in their terms. https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/134246/f4d79eca-b65a-4615-b678-c641e0011616/image.png
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0VNLhyuxg0
The Republican base has been radicalized.
The question is what will happen when Trump dies/loses reelection/gets impeached/gets imprisoned.
Riots.
Eww, gross. Our country is continuing to head towards a rotten direction.
If he dropped dead they'd think it was some fucking conspiracy and he was assassinated by Hillary or some shit
Trump is delusional and very outspoken. He's also a liar. He's never had qualities of being anything presidential let alone a top dollar businessman. I'm still impressed he's lasted this far. I'm even more impressed that the GOP are pretty much sheep rather than look at themselves and support their own cause/values. Trump isn't a Republican at this point. Trump is himself and everyone wants to be Trump. It's creepy yet not really shocking.
approval ratings lookin like a side view of a star destroyer https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/134246/f4d79eca-b65a-4615-b678-c641e0011616/image.png https://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/books/weg/victory.jpg
I despise Reagan but at least he was a president who conducted himself with maturity, dignity, and charisma. He had the air of a great president. Trump is an embarrassment to a surreal degree that almost defies belief; a loudmouth, lowbrow, racist, compulsively lying narcissist of a man. It must be a sad reflection of the state of human civilization that people in and outside of America look up to him as a leader and rolemodel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bzWSJG93P8
The fundamental crisis is called racism. Trump is popular because he "says it like it is." AKA, he says openly what previous Republican presidents have kept subtle. This alone is enough for his supporters to overlook everything else about him. He is an ugly president for ugly people. At this point, my only hope is that this is a wakeup call for decent people in this country that a significant percentage of people they interact with on a daily basis are legitimately piece of shit. This isn't to say that they should believe that all of them are beyond hope. Rather, this should be a call to action to root out the destructive ideologies that people are indoctrinated with from birth, so that those who aren't completely lost down the rabbit hole of xenophobia can come back to sanity, and future generations will not be poisoned. This requires better education, first and foremost: we need a New Deal regarding the education system in this country just as much we need a New Deal for the economy. While free college and student loan forgiveness are undoubtedly going to be hot button issues in the 2020 election, the entire K-12 system also needs to be complete revamped to bring it up to the standards of the best first world countries.
The praise for Trump comes from the same kind of praise for other Republican/Conservative politicians. They talk big but are actually small, their sense of showmanship impresses small minds, and those same small minds are convinced the act they witnessed is a true show of [x example]. Any politician in their spotlight takes full advantage of it, and that's one of the biggest issues in this sociopolitical environment. They have exploited their voter base so much, they have molded them into a literal cult of personality, focusing on the show a politician can put on instead of any actual change or progress they can produce with their peers. It has gotten so so so bad in the last century that we now have Trump, oh high and mighty "champion" of the Republican party, he's a typhoon plowing through everything actually good in his sights, toppling it over and claiming the destruction he's caused is the new "good". No matter who it hurts, the Trump party sits in awe, acting as though he's a godsend. Trump has set the bar oh so low, that anyone coming after him will be even worse. We need a serious overhaul of our culture and education system, because acting big and bad while swiping down the little people and the environment for a profit is gonna destroy us all.
48% of this country would fucking celebrate, 48% would don their tin foil hats and start rioting, and 4% would be caught in the crossfire trying to keep the peace.
I can't wait for people to retroactively call him a great speaker to be able to garner such popular support, much like another "great speaker" in the 20th century.
I fear that some radical Christians would start to occupy/destroy schools if that happens.
Radical christians have already pulled out of public schools entirely. That's what the homeschool movement is for. (Well, parts of it. They're not all bad. I was homeschooled myself, and yet I wasn't sheltered like a lot of christian kids are.) That's also why most of their kids drop their faith like a rock the moment they start their first semester at a secular college, and why many of these kids end up having a huge chip on their shoulder towards their parents from that point onward.
Hopefully, something like this would do something about how schools often look the other way when it comes to bullying. The way they not only ignore bullying but sometimes encourage the bullies is just despicable and undefendable. Hell, someone mentioned that people should stop calling it bullying and just call it abuse since that's basically what it really is. Maybe then, more people will take that shit seriously.
You vastly overestimate US educational standards. A large number of people supporting him doesn't make those people any more intelligent as a group. It's still a large number of largely uninformed cultist-like figures.
These people are unironically dangerous to the entire world.
Who the fuck did they poll, t_d?
I want it to happen just to see the posters made, Like that vaccine checkpoint one. Trump would be Julius Ceaser, and Swamp Thing, Hillary, a black person and the cartel would be stabbing him in the back while two transsexuals in hijabs fuck each other in front of Lincoln statue while Antifa burns the White House down. A good old American family from North Dakota are caught in the crossfire as Obama steals guns and locks the NRA in the texas book depository.
This is always what I thought people really meant when they mean that Donald Trump is going to cause irreparable damage to this country.
The GOP and Fox News radicalizing their own base is what led to this. You reap what you sow.
If they polled t_d, the "strongly approves" would've been 110%
they fall apart for a decade or so like the post Reagan Post BushW eras.
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