Mom Says 6-Year-Old Son Is Transgender. Dad Disagrees. Now He Might Lose His Son - Sensationalist Headlines

https://www.dailywire.com/news/38728/mom-says-6-year-old-son-transgender-dad-disagrees-amanda-prestigiacomo?amp&__twitter_impression=true A Texas father is fighting for his son in court after pushing back on his ex-wife's claim that their six-year-old is a transgender girl. According to court documents, the young boy only dresses as a girl when he's with his mother, who has enrolled him in first-grade as a female named "Luna." The father, however, contends that his son consistently chooses to wear boy's clothes, "violently refuses to wear girl’s clothes at my home," and identifies as a boy when he is with him.

Cant we let the fucking kid live a couple more years before foisting all sorts of fucked up politics on the poor thing?

I'm still reserved until we hear more about what the kid actually thinks about the whole situation -- there's so much shit going around against so many groups that I feel like this could just be another sensationalist story made to get controversy for clicks

daily wire: https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/135/c077d1cb-9dc5-4910-8c7f-319720b2fb4b/image.png the federalist (cited source): https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/135/292bd3df-9fb5-4442-9ba8-de926edd1efd/image.png I don't know. I don't agree with forcing a gender identity on people but with the two sources that factor in I'm very fucking iffy on the article.

Now, whatever the case - I think that the situation needs a neutral party / neutral councilor to help clear things up. At no time should permanent / irreversible procedures be performed on a child (<18) unless it is medically necessary. I would like to note that the original story was authored on The Federalist. The author in particular, Walt Heyer, brings you the following pieces (the last four pieces before the one in OP): "Why A Compromise On Transgender Politics Would Be Capitulation" "If California’s LGBT Therapy Ban Had Been Law 30 Years Ago, I Might Have Killed Myself" "Thanks To The Trump Administration, The U.S. Military Will Not Become A Sex-Change Clinic" "President Trump, Do Not Turn The Military Into A Federally Funded Sex Change Clinic" source: Walt Heyer, Author at The Federalist I'd take this with a grain of salt.

I remember seeing this thread on Reddit and thinking it was the perfect fuel for this.

"She is also seeking to require him to pay for the child’s visits to a transgender-affirming therapist and transgender medical alterations, which may include hormonal sterilization starting at age eight," the report adds." And yet the dad is the one being reported as abusive in the case? Let the kid decide for himself,better yet let him decide when he's older and puberty hits him.

thats all it takes for you to completely discard the story?

Not really but I'm having some slight doubts on it. I should've stated that better.

So yeah, what you do is have the kid talk to a fucking specialist on the matter who can determine if the kid is trans or not. Maybe the mom is bitch forcing her own views on the kid, or maybe the dad is a dickhead where the kid doesn't feel safe expressing their identity around him. Maybe the kid is non-binary in some way. Here is the thing though, research has shown that 6/7 years old is the peak for when children determine their gender identity. There is a smaller peak in the early teens, but the largest group is at 6/7. So either way this is the age the kid is most likely to find out.

Since when is being right wing such a capital offense? Westerner internet sphere truly became weird this last few years Anyways, doubtful that this is false, there's even a site dedicated to this shit Save James – Stop Medical Child Abuse

https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/110207/f98402c5-7434-4625-897c-87366e0b1649/yeah.JPG https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/110207/128adc42-f70a-4341-8ce1-035bdccba891/yeah2.JPG Walt Heyer, Author at The Federalist

Probably a bit after the right wing decided to have it's signature move be lying, lying, making shit up, and more lying.

Biaised reporting is shit on either end of the spectrum and that's what's being called out here. This means theses website lie and misrepresent stories on purpose to fit their agenda. Also nice website https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/297971/f44b6743-3e26-4303-89a8-eb0927295370/image.png Selling Tee shirts to capitalise on the sensationalised mediatisation of this. Really makes me believe theyre in good faith.

The only way to dismiss this is if ALL of it is a lie. I'm sorry, but the mother is being unreasonable even IF the kid feels like a girl. He's six fucking years old. Unless this whole story is a fabrication, it's fucking awful because no matter how you slice it, his mother is an uncompromising narcissist who is projecting and forcing her abusive wishes for a daughter onto the kid. The whole issue here is that one of the parents wants to force a life-changing decision onto a six-yearold and the other, despite weird wording, seems at the very least in favor of letting the kid grow up and make his own decisions. This isn't rocket science. The source being shit doesn't play into this scenario unless it's a total fabrication from top to bottom.

That isn't right wing, that's extremist levels. But more importantly it's also bias meaning the story is almost definitely being twisted in favor of extremist conservatives.

i was gonna reply to this post but the amount of salt I took caused a kidney failure so brb

It's also Vuu. I mean, what do you expect? If there's any truth to this story, which I'm somewhat doubtful on, it's fucked up, but it's hard to say anything without seeing a good source. Oscar Wilde's mother wanted a daughter, so she dressed him as a girl in his early years. Not sure if there's any suggestion that this contributed to his extremely flamboyant nature, but I'm just mentioning it because this is at least a feasible story due to similar events having transpired in the past.

did you read the article at all?

Yes.

yeah and I wouldn't believe that either http://savejames.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Prayers-for-James-and-Jude.pdf

The parameters for what's considered 'extreme' on MBFC are pretty fucking strict. I mean, this is Fox News: https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/242634/2e174e0f-8c32-432f-98c8-7a9119d2efd0/image.png So, just under 'right' with MIXED factual reporting. This is The Daily Wire: https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/242634/f1c4d12f-307e-46ce-87f7-e9b1b36653c4/image.png Also with MIXED factual reporting. The difference is fairly subtle, but note that the following is Breitbart: https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/242634/d2e42efd-5b4f-458e-8abc-aac797f18202/image.png I notice that 'The Federalist', despite being quite right-wing, does have HIGH factual reporting, so it's very possible that this story's true, but I'd much rather have a better source before making any judgements. I think @Weyu is justified in holding off for now too.

I have no doubt this is happening, there is no need to question that. The is is over the portrayal of what is happening.

But why do you have no doubt? Apologies if it's obvious, but I've read the article and elements could be totally fabricated or omitted if not advantageous. I just hate super biased sources for learning about stuff like this.

I mean I had jt all figured out by the age of 12 or so, and in retrospect a lot of my behaviors in early childhood were strong indicators of me being transgender. Six years old is not unheard of, and it's likely kids are figuring it out earlier now because of the availability of information. Kids are smarter then a lot of you give them credit for.

Childhood gender therapy is ridiculous. I got diagnosed with gender dysphoria at 11 years old which in retrospect was completely unnecessary and helped in 0 ways other than make me feel like there was something wrong with me for not being girly. I think often there is nothing pathological about a boy wearing a dress or whatever but grown ups get eager to make it an issue that requires therapy and crap and it only makes things worse.

In the time it has taken for people to explain why we should trust a story from notoriously bad sources because "well it's probably only somewhat fake news just go along with the important bits" you guys could have found a source that met the fairly lax rules of old Polidicks and we wouldn't be having this discussion. I tried though and couldn't find anything. As far as I can tell this story exists because someone told the Federalist guy about the fathers dossier which includes the court documents. "He might lose his kids" because the mother is accusing him of being abusive. Obviously a lot of this is he said/she said stuff and if she is lying that is really shitty but I don't think there is a way to tell. As far as the transgender stuff goes, the father himself readily admits that this wasn't a spur of the moment thing but the child has actually been scene by medical professionals and I see no reason in particular to distrust their judgement. This is literally just the fathers point of view, and it's predictably biased. And it's not because its right wing it's because it has a history of peddling horseshit.

Because disputes like this are remarkably common in the lives of transgender children. So it's not hard to believe another one is occurring. But yeah it's quite probable the story is being manipulated and twisted by such crap sources.

Can we bring the rules about the article again? Aka no opinion articles, must have high factuality and must not exceed center-right or center-left.

I tried searching through the court documents and didn't once find anything about transgender medical alterations, it seems like the mother just wants reimbursement for taking him to see a therapist. I invite other people to follow-up on this claim in case I missed it.