https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46397644
Pls no war
Russia says it is not planning retaliatory measure
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Drastic but I don't see what else Ukraine can do when the Russian government has done all but declared war on them.
Can't invade if your entire army is barred entry 🤔
Just wait for Russian divisions consisting entirely of women and/or old people to just waltz across the border.
Yea, This will not help them to inspire to secede and form confederation with DPR and LPR as their Novorossiya and some Russia’s unofficial aid to against you moronic Ukrainian president.
To quote a famous Russian, "What sick man sends babies to fight me?"
What can Ukraine do at this point? It seems as though crimea and eastern ukraine are pretty much lost.
Hold as much ground as possible until to US gets it's shit together. After that turn of event, if Ukraine can hold on military and politically, the western world can retaliate with a strong US leader that isn't a puppet.
like we did with crimea? unless you want us to go to actual war with russia
Crimea was a surprise that caught the entire world off guard. No one predicted anything like it, which is why no one had any plan. After the start of the Eastern conflict, NATO members are actively training the regular UA forces. As of now, the western countries have upgraded their forces a lot more than in 2014. Either way, if the West started to create proper sanctions, proper impacts then Russia would either go to full war or back off.
It also depends on if Putin feels he needs to do military action to get his rating up.
To give Putin credit, he's playing some pretty gnarly 4D underwater chess and everyone is afraid of doing anything because they don't want conflict. Getting some Anschluss vibes right now.
Russia is bluffing, they don't want a large scale conflict either.
Now where are all these young men with a Georgia passport coming from all of a sudden?
It's time there was an armed response to Putin
I don't know about that but letting Ukraine in NATO and pushing the "separatists" out of Eastern Ukraine would certainly leave him fuming.
To be fair, say a NATO backed force reoccupied Crimea - what can Russia do? Militarily it would be fighting a losing battle from the start. Economically it could do some damage but it might be worth it to break the paralysis induced right now.
I mean, it does hinder little green men appearances.
I don't see a war happening, but it's real fucking scary to see the tensions get tenser.
NATO won't risk going into a direct fight with Russia. I can only imagine 1 country being ready for such a fight.
You seem to heavily underestimate the Russian army. They're actually preparing for a eastern-European war on a massive scale (Vostok wargames). NATO on the other hand appears to opt to pass the Russian danger to Ukraine, Poland, Baltic states. And in that group I can see only 1 being able to put a dent into the Russian forces, but still come out on the losing end.
The US has no direct obligation to help Ukraine. They aren't in NATO, they aren't in the EU.
Unfortunately, Ukraine is on its own.
If anything, the EU should be the one to "get its shit together". This is right on their doorstep.
Actually, we've had a defense agreement with Ukraine since 1994. Signed alongside the United Kingdom and Russia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances
I can already imagine logistical nightmare of trying to 'reoccupy" a very militarized peninsula. Unlike Ukrainian military stationed there prior to occupation, Russian forces will fight back. Russia will be much more prepared to move its
forces into Crimea than any NATO country can possibly supply and train the 'force' in question. And if the initial invasion fails, or has limited success, what then? Attrition warfare? Between Ukraine and Russia?..
Yeah no, let's not say a NATO backed force reoccupied anything. That's a conflict nobody wants. As much as I personally would prefer Crimea returned to its rightful owner, it's best if we all can avoid any military engagements. The
conflict will inevitably turn into a disaster, no matter how limited of an engagement it might be. And I'm saying it with no selfish interest, I'm past drafting age lol
Reading this article, it only says that the US is required to submit action through the UN Security Council, which Russia will easily veto.
To add to Big Man, Ukraine is a NATO partner and has been alongside NATO in many international operations. NATO has an obligation to help them. Maybe not fully militarily, but training - and that is what the are doing in Ukraine.
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