Ministers to publish full Brexit legal advice after contempt vote - Polidicks

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46446694 Literally only just saw this, as I'm watching the debate live, so there's no further info in the article yet. Will update when we know more.

311 to 293, christ that's close. What have the 293 who voted against to gain from hiding the information?

I think it's probably that close because the Tory remainer MPs might have thought this is the best chance of avoiding 'No Deal', with No Deal enthusiast MPs similar to Mogg thinking it gives them a chance of avoiding the inevitably fallout from what they claim to want when No Deal invariably ends in a significant contraction of the economy. I'm keen to read more info on who voted what when the figures are released.

If the Brexit votes fails next week there is a very real possibility that there will have to be a general election, and so it's in the Tories' interest to keep any potentially damaging information under the rug.

so I'm right in saying this is the first time a government in the uk has been found in contempt of parliament, right? what a fucking shitshow.

Honestly, I'm not sure, but governments/leaders have lost votes of No Confidence before, like in '79, and that's typically far more serious.

Fuck their shenanigans, it's their retardation and refusal to do anything that would hurt them as a party that the UK is in its current edge-of-irrevocable-disaster situation to begin with. This is the time for transparency and accountability and if that means they get absolutely fucked in a general election well maybe that's what they deserve to have happen to them. The nation should know exactly who is trying to keep them blind and ignorant to the single most important decision the country has made since WW2.

Yeah usually if Parliament has turned on the government so badly that they're willing to hold them in contempt, they'd just do a vote of no confidence instead and throw the bastards out, but we're in this weird unique situation where Parliament is furiously pissed at the government but doesn't want to actually bring them because we're right in the middle of Brexit stuff

https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1069981350822899712 An interesting thread on an amendment now being tabled in Parliament. I'd recommend reading the whole thing because Peston understands it better than I do, but tl;dr it would allow them to put forward meaningful amendments to any plan B. It's expected to pass, but no-deal brexiteers argue that the amendments would be non binding and could make the majority against here even bigger.

Parliament at the moment is basically anarchy. Usually it's held together because the government can keep its MPs in line by offering them future promotions or threatening demotions, but right now no one thinks this government is gonna survive beyond the next few weeks so who cares what they say

I think the situation can be summed up as "It's all gone a bit shit innit?"

Are there live viewings of what's going on in there?

We really are in The Thick Of It.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-parliaments-46428770 At the top of this for people in the UK, not sure if not.

Imagine killing your own party over a meme.

Oh it'll just be people talking politely about constitutional matters but trust me it's anarchy

https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/134246/f208f6c5-45a2-4e92-9881-3f3a2d83c5b4/image.png

The US is killing its own party over attempted fascism, it's just used memes to get there in the first place. Important distinction.

https://twitter.com/gordonrayner/status/1070012617584861184 It's been a tough day for Theresa May.

The Brexit grift is coming apart at the seams. Fantastic.

Killing your own country.

A minority government is now trying to push through the last days of withdrawing the entire country from the EU. They have absolutely no hope of doing so without further major setbacks. I just hope Parliament can take control enough to prevent them from saying 'well we tried' and burning it all on their way out.