PewDiePie gives shout out to hateful, anti-Semitic YouTube channel - Sensationalist Headlines

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Oh no the world is ending. 10 years ago no one would bat an eye at this.

I'd like to just give a big shout out to my homeboy HangEmHigh1488

I once watched a channel that had some long form videos, videos were great, at least the ones youtube kept showing in the sidebar/autoplay. Then it played one about "the Jewish question" but wasn't named anything like that. That was after being subbed to it for maybe a week, unsubbed right as I watched and it kept going and wasn't just a shitty edgy joke. I wonder if PewDiePie did the same, never watched every video, just ones that look interesting. Hell, looking at the channel, it doesn't look bad(i.e. racist), from just looking at the thumbnails and video. https://vgy.me/5mCNmo.png Also, a lot of shitpost looking videos too.

I'm conflicted because on the one hand, Pewdiepie shouldn't be promoting an alt-right channel, and on the other hand I can't fucking stand any smug liberal douchebag associated with the young turks

i mean, Kyle Kulinski is fine, but the rest of TYT are annoying as fuck.

Uh, yeah they would? But keep repeating vacuous platitudes, I'm sure they'll come off as observational eventually.

https://youtu.be/UiWY0iRLV94

10 years ago Storefront was front page headlines, if anything we care less about internet Nazis now that they're largely normalized.

what a glorious thumbnail.

man pewdiepie is a clickbait goldmine for these ""news"" outlets all they have to do is nab something from a recent video, bring up a battle royale bridge or fiverr incident, and boom bop boom easy clicks easy money

Yea, Kyle is better than rest of them as my first pick but sometime Jimmy Dore got some his "Conspiracy theories" were closely right by best, So he still my second pick from network.

outrage over shit like this will only hurt honest discourse in the long run

I mean, Pewdiepie is the number one youtuber, and tons of kids watch him, so it's pretty concerning that some of them might be led down the alt-right rabbit hole because of him. Doesn't matter whether he was aware of the channel's content or not. At the very least, he's being extremely irresponsible. Also, there'd be just as many headlines if any other prominent figure in entertainment did something like this. Roseanne Barr was all over the news when she showed her true colors on twitter. The difference is that, not only has Pewdiepie refused to learn from his mistakes, but Youtube is giving him a blank check for his behavior because of how much money he makes them.

People who get outraged aren't the ones keeping 'outrage manufacturers' in business, it's the people with rageaholism-by-proxy.

i would be inclined to disagree. There’s plenty of outrage to go around exaggerating issues and I’ve seen many well meaning folks, even on this site, get totally fooled by “fake news” and outrage “journalism”

I remember my friend pulling a "prank" on me and linking me to one of this guy's videos. It was just a kind of standard edgy StevenU rant video, but then it turned into some kind of weird transphobic rant halfway through. Needless to say, that friend was cracking up at my reaction to the sudden topic change.

Pewdiepie has had a remarkable consistency to repeatedly make this exact same type of "misstep". Nobody else is having this sort of issue, it's just him saying the N word, making epic funny nazi jokes, promoting questionable content creators, etc. There's a pretty obvious throughline forming here.

I don't think doing something like this warrants account suspension. People make mistakes, even the 'biggest' youtuber. The media has been making articles of everything even slightly suspicious said by Pewdiepie, in an actual smear campaign. And this is barely a mistake, all the guy did was recommend a channel based on a video he enjoyed. People call him out, he'll say he wasn't aware (and has no reason to lie), and that's it. There's nothing but manufactured controversy. Maybe he should be more careful in his recommendations, but this was like one of the 20 channels he recommended. On top of that, it's true that a lot of kids watch him, but his content is far from kid-oriented. It's like lambasting games with a mature rating for not protecting the kids from their content. I don't think we should hold a youtuber responsible for that either, but maybe YouTube itself needs some age ratings.

He made a handful of mistakes that have been reported by shitty internet tabloids ad nauseam. Hardly consistent. I probably watch all of his videos because they're kind of funny, and the actual small mistakes he makes are probably a yearly occurrence. With daily videos and the media watching you like a hawk, I'm sure something slightly questionable slips out.

I watch plenty of content creators that produce far more content than him and yet, somehow, refrain from stepping into this sort of habit. Weird. Besides, nobody is "bullying" him ffs. He's literally the worlds largest content creator, why is it surprising that people would want to hold him accountable for the influence he has on millions of people (including impressionable kids/young adults)?

There is no habit, mate. The guy makes a video daily. Maybe one in 200 videos have something objectionable in it.

I mean... I bought that excuse the first time he had an issue like this crop up what... 3 or 4 years ago now? One or two controversies of the exact same vein every single year doesn't exactly inspire confidence that they're uncharacteristic. Also, can we stop pretending that all humor and memetic material is harmless already? Saying "its just a joke" or "its just a meme" is no different than the whole "its just a prank bro" excuse we all harped on and got over ages ago. Regardless of your stance on this topic, it's at the very least worth acknowledging the potential for humor to be influential.

You don't watch his videos, do you? It's nothing like the "it's a prank bro" situation. He makes a context-related bad joke, then follows it up with a very clear "jk!!". It may not be your type of humor (it's not why I watch his videos), but it's certainly not influential to anyone with a slightly working brain.

I can name you plenty of (large) content creators that make videos daily that have never had a controversy like this. I don't think this is a good excuse. I don't think he's an awful person or anything, but he really needs to figure this shit out already. Every time this sort of thing has happened he goes back and apologizes and says he needs to learn from it and do better. He's admitted as much himself. If this becomes a regular thing, I don't know if I can take that commitment seriously.

You might as well ask me to acknowledge that violent video games can lead to real-life violence. No thanks, go away.

No, I admit I don't. But I can't say I think that sort of thing sounds all that great either. Saying stuff with a little extra "jk" at the end isn't an escape clause for any potential consequence of your words. Imo, I think it definitely has the potential to be influential, if that phenomenon isn't observed empirically already. A PT article outlines a particular example of this potential here. The release of Dave Carroll's wildly popular, "United Breaks Guitars," on YouTube coincided with a 10% decrease in United stock price, and has since garnered ten million plus views. Perhaps the more interesting tidbit is the social implications humor has in forming relationships and garnering admiration and respect. Let's not forget humor's social benefits. Not surprisingly, funny people receive positive attention and admiration. Your ability to create and appreciate humor also influences who wants to date, mate and befriend you. Most studies find humor to be a highly desirable attribute, which explains why the acronym GSOH (good sense of humor) finds its way into personal and online dating posts. Unfortunately there isn't a lot of research on this subject, which is a shame, because I'd find it pretty interesting. We've all seen how successful and ubiquitous political humor has become in recent decades, and I think there's an observable element of using humor as an element of persuasion. If you want to get the joke and laugh with everyone else - you have to be in tune with the groups values that make the joke funny in the first place.

the E;R video's i've seen were shitposts about anime, thats what they all seem to be, who cares. This is some blatent guilt by association with cherry picking on top and it's just so unbeleivably stupid and cancerous to put any stock in any of this. By putting giving this credence, you're just leaving the door open for an endless stream of more "oh, a guy mentioned another guy who used a word i don't like on twitter 3 years ago, burn them all at the stake".

Yeah it kinda is, because it makes extra extra clear that something was a joke (when the actual joke already had an extremely sarcastic tone to it). Pewdiepie also makes these jokes with a different kind of voice. If the words have consequences for anyone they should probably not be watching any kind of content.