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https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1072591327676768256
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag1o3koTLWM
So if this is true, only the Tories can appoint a new leader in their own party? These past few days have been eventful, but this is starting to look more like a TV series that's escalating with every episode.
https://twitter.com/SDoughtyMP/status/1072550760314007552?s=19 Also this. Which....seriously? Fuck off.
Yeah, this would be an internal party leader election, the winner of which would then become prime minister without the need for a general election, cus our executive is based on whichever party controls the legislature rather than which individual party leader was last voted in, which is a bit fucked since it could mean we get an unelected prime minister to see us through the short remaining time left to negotiate brexit. Even more fucked is the possibility that that person could be Boris Johnson. The other option is that we have a GE which either, after a long, arduous, brutal election, strengthens the Tories' mandate to continue brexiting however they see fit and depending on who would hypothetically take over could lead to a hard brexit, or leaves us with a messy Labour led coalition without enough time before the brexit deadline to scramble anything legitimate together. We literally have three months, and given that it's taken, like, two years to shit out a deal that nobody likes, the prospect of just three months in any possible scenario is horrifying.
There are a handful of Tory MPs who have said they'll leave the party if Boris or Rees Mogg become leader, I only know Anna Soubry off the top of my head
God, watching the UK is entertaining, I wonder if thats why a lot of non-Americans watch the US.
That would be glorious - it would only take a handful jumping ship to starve them of their tiny coalition majority after all.
You're like a soap opera and we're a satire comedy. Or vice versa. It's a bit difficult to tell, really.
Comedies usually have happy endings though.
Dominic Grieve seems the other obvious candidate. Also if Peston is reporting it, it's probably true https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1072584017285931011
well yeah but he wants a second referendum and can't abide a No Deal, both of which make him far too sensible
I feel bad for whoever might replace May simply because they're gonna run into the same wall.
Black comedy then
https://twitter.com/David_Cameron/status/595112367358406656 https://twitter.com/conservatives/status/857501948106481664 https://twitter.com/Conservatives/status/869289994443247616 https://twitter.com/theresa_may/status/1066687749456039938 When you distance yourself on how Brexit is a massive political car crash and how it'll affect the country and your future, it's quality how badly all of these have aged; It's a shame that learning about brexit in the future won't be as juicy as watching everything fuck up around you in the moment.
The US is like a reflection of the UK. Brexit preceded Trump winning the presidency. Seeing the UK finally do what they should have done two years ago inspires confidence that we'll eventually do the right thing before it's too late. At least that's why I've been watching Brexit as much as I have despite not really understanding the intricacies of British politics.
What's sad is that this probably - is - the best deal possible for Britain. It's just the Brexit brigade are asking for the literally impossible. As per usual they just want something to criticise.
It's definitely the best deal that could be considered as ostensibly a 'Brexit deal', but I still think it's ridiculous for us to give up representation in the EU parliament whilst still forcing us to follow the rules. I don't really blame May or the EU for how the deal turned out, as compromise is important, but I'd much rather we just cancelled the whole shebang. I can even empathise with hardcore Brexiteers who want no-deal at this point, as this deal has literally pissed off everybody in the country regardless of how they voted.
The deal is the best thing we were ever going to get considering we went into the negotiations in a bad position and things only went downhill from there. The second they made the end of free movement of people a "Red Line" issue we were doomed as that was one thing the EU was adamant from day one that they wouldn't budge on.
Gonna use this as an opportunity to praise Anna Soubry. Despite being 62, she is somehow one of the most moderate Tories and has a relatively clean voting record - she's explained some of her blemishes as following the decisions of her constituents, rather than her own personal views, which is commendable and annoyingly uncommon. She's also not been afraid to tell both Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson to essentially go fuck themselves. Also, according to the Telegraph, here are the most likely replacements for Theresa May: Boris Johnson Sajid Javid Amber Rudd Jeremy Hunt Michael Gove Penny Mordaunt Dominic Raab Esther McVey David Davis Only two of those don't make me uneasy. Seeing how much support Boris still retains from Conservatives, both in the political sphere AND the general public, is unsettling.
Again, how does Boris has such support from the public?
Prime Minister Boris Johnson. We are now shifted to the timeline where this is physically possible. And they wonder why Scotland wants to go independent.
Are you questioning whether that's the case, or questioning how that could possibly be the case?
How. I mean, I want to say whether, but I'm too cynical to.
Because the public in this country are fucking stupid.
He doesn't, virtually none of them do: Boris Johnson popularity & fame | YouGov
This entire sorry state of fucking affairs, from conception to currently-contended execution, has been one everlasting series of cock-ups that rival anything I have ever heard or read about in any history book. I imagine that this whole decade will be packaged up inside future history textbooks under the chapter heading 'what the fuck even was any of this?'
That is incredibly relieving, honestly.
Well there's the aforementioned 'hahahaha funny man' and appreciation of old traditional views - just look at how people think Jacob Rees-Mogg is almost 'cute' because he resembles an old timey-wimey Brit with a slender figure, a pompous manner, use of obnoxiously pompous words, and spectacles. Ignore his views that would take us back 50+ years, it's nice and British so I like it!!!!! One girl in my A-Level History class said Boris was her favourite politician because he was 'cute'. Some people like him because they don't take him seriously and thus think everything that comes out of his mouth is a joke. Then there are the people who like him because they take him seriously. Boris Johnson conducts himself in a manner that triggers flashbacks to old imperialist politicians, and it's surprising how many Brits I've encountered that look back on the British Empire with fondness, not 'christ I can't believe we did that'. Take my mother, for example, who has voiced several times her disdain for a world where the British aren't in control. I guess for that reason that Boris is the top candidate for nationalists who have wet dreams about the British Empire, the good ol' times when we oppressed everyone and, better yet, got stinkin' rich off it! Then there are the people who just so happen to support at least some aspect of his views, and can't relate enough to the other candidates. Boris Johnson seems like the type to put up a middle-finger to anyone who opposes him and some people like that behaviour, probably because they think politicians are too 'soft' [these people struggleto realise that repercussions and consequences for actions exist, hence such politicians have to be 'soft']. Tl;dr People that would vote for UKIP but don't want to be associated with the UKIP label Traditionalists Imperialists 'Politicians are too soft nowadays' People that think he's a joke politician and find his mannerisms cute & funny People that genuinely support and relate to his views
And yet they didn't leave and in fact pro-unity got even more support post-Brexit. WTF Scotland?!
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