https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46560807
She wanted legal assurances on the Irish backstop to help her deal get through Parliament, after she delayed a Commons vote in anticipation of defeat.
The PM said the deal was "at risk" if MPs' concerns could not be addressed.
European Commission president Jean-Claude Juncker said there could be clarifications but no renegotiation.
When's the general election
What the hell was she expecting. The EU's been going on record repeatedly as saying there's going to be no renegotiation, did she think doing her (soulless) puppy eyes would get them to go "aw why the hell not"?
So she is either going to force the Parliament into her bad deal at the last minute, or they will just let it pass into no deal.
I don't think those are the only two options you know, there could be a hidden third which is actually better for everyone... 🤔
But that wouldn't let Britannia rule again :c
That's true, but I think cancelling Brexit is looking more and more unlikely as time goes forward. I honestly think May's 'deal' is the stupidest of the 3 potential options, as it will please literally nobody, but unless we get a new PM, I think the government is going to invest a lot of time and energy into getting some sort of deal, whatever that may be.
What I don't get is why brexiters people are so afraid of revoking Article 50. I mean think about it we can leave any time we want right? And right now you can see that the government and economy is woefully unprepared for it. So why not cancel it, slap in place a provision for 5+ years worth of "self-sustainable economy" or something until the UK is in a position both financially and economically to be ready to leave the EU with proper borders and customs in place.
I don't want us to leave the EU personally, but if we leave with the deal we have now it'll be a shambles and our government will probably fall apart, and if we leave with a no-deal we basically fuck ourselves for a good 10 years.
I don't believe under parliamentary sovereignty that you can tie future parliaments up like that. It is political suicide for whoever cancels Article 50.
It doesn't bode well for our future of bigly good deals if we can't even leave with a good one.
its political suicide for whoever no deal brexits
Not exactly, as it is time related, as can be seen as the Parliaments and May's fault, but it isn't political suicide.
May fucked herself by talking up "no deal is better than a bad deal" for two years until people actually believed it, and now she has to pull a complete 180 and convince the public that no deal is actually terrible and her deal is better
It is political suicide if you do it, because nobody except raving lunatics deluded enough to believe in brexit being good will then choose to vote for you, while anybody else duped into doing so will never vote for you again.
strong n stable
sorry, but the conservatives are not going to be electable for a decade at best if this goes through. They're already committing political suicide. Might as well not fuck up the country whilst they're at it
it's as much political suicide to cancel brexit as it is to do ANY OTHER OPTION.
I'm in two minds about Labour taking power and stopping brexit (which I feel is inevitable, as renegotiation is off the table and the party line is to NOT allow a no deal) because it would destroy the party. They would lose the Northern Leave vote and it would be effectively a martyrdom to save us in the short term. On the other hand, it's not at all a good look to sit idly while the tories burn the country down so you can rule the ashes
Saying that though, people need to remember that whatever comes out the other end of Brexit, we'll still be sat here under Tory policy by the end of it. Brexit is hugely consequential of course, but it's almost become THE single issue.
I have no idea really. Brexit is a poison chalice and whoever takes it is doomed. Do Labour (with a coalition, I assume) swoop in to stop it, save us in the short term, but doom us to eternal Tory rule, or do we grimace and sit through a bodged Tory brexit so a better party can try rebuild?
The whole situation might be forced to extend or delay Article 50, plus the transition period is about 2 years once it begins - but I doubt that the European Courts wouldn't allow us to cancel the whole thing during that period, seeing as how much of a suicide this is.
Well, I hope so anyway...
Everyone knew this already, but it's pretty clever to get it back in the headlines because it gives the appearance of the EU being uncooperative, which means you can give the blame to them in the eyes of the public. This is basically countering the earlier announcement that going through with Brexit was entirely the UK's choice and can be reverted from the UK an UK alone.
If you want to start the blame game, ok.
It's mostly the fault of people who think and believe like you do.
If we leave on 29th March that's it, we're no longer a member of the EU and we'd have to apply for membership all over again
You need to differentiate modern British parliamentary sovereignty. Dicey would've had an aneurysm over it, sure, but constitutional reform in the past few decades means the constitution of 1885 is barely recognisable when you compare it to 2018's constitution. Parliaments have been bound by past parliaments before, re: the legislation regarding devolution.
We're all fucked
EU: "How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old woman?"
It's political suicide to blunder ahead with Brexit despite every sign and symptom we've gotten so far that it's going to totally assfuck the country for years to come. If you want Britian to thrive and regain her sovreignity, you want Brexit cancelled.
He doesn't give a shit about the economy. He's just a nationalist who hopes that if Brexit goes through it'll inspire similar shit in NZ.
yeah m8 i guess between getting fucked with a rusty axe and getting fucked with a chainsaw the axe is the better deal eh
hahahhaha I’m not i bailed out of the country now I’m FREE suckers!!
please don’t I have family there still
A no-deal Brexit will cost Soft power, Economic power and Political power, to the greatest extent of all possible outcomes, for all of the UK indiscriminately.
May knows that, a healthy portion of the Tories know that and a good half of the UK population knows that.
And no amount of wishful thinking will change that.
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