Johnson & Johnson Baby/Talcum Powder Contained Asbestos for Decades
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NEW YORK --
Johnson & Johnson's stock plunged Friday after Reuters reported that the health care products giant has known since the 1970s that its talc baby powder sometimes contained carcinogenic asbestos, a claim the company denied.
Johnson & Johnson dropped 8 percent to $136.10, which put the Dow stalwart on pace for its biggest loss in 16 years. Its market value fell by $30 billion.
Reuters reported that court documents and test results show Johnson & Johnson has known for decades that its raw talc and finished baby powder sometimes contained asbestos, but that the company didn't inform regulators or the public. The company called the story false and inflammatory.
In July the company lost a lawsuit from plaintiffs who argued that its products were linked to cases of ovarian cancer and mesothelioma. A St. Louis jury awarded plaintiffs $4.7 billion. It faces thousands of other lawsuits.
Johnson & Johnson stock plummets after report says company knew ..
but libertarians told me that companies would never do anything to harm their customers!
Not a big enough drop, in all honesty
they'll likely end up recovering to some degree. The real nature of capitalism.
I hope the lawsuits being in the billions fucking kill it though.
The free market provides
I could have sworn I knew about this already? Like, for years?
is this a known fact though? like yeah I wouldn't be surprised but I also wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be false like the mice/anthrax in coke or spider eggs in hubba bubba or whatever
Is it known at all if any other brand has the same problem?
Oh I see, it was the link with ovarian cancer that I was remembering. While concerns of asbestos contamination were around (co-located minerals), this is breaking the news that the company knew for a long time that their product was in fact laced with asbestos.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talc#Litigation
My mum often wondered why as a baby i was more poisoned and fire resistant than usual
I'm not sold. From what I've read so far, the amount of asbestiform fibres found in talc samples whenever they showed up was minuscule, and by and large most samples turned up negative. The article brings up the point about how talc miners developed mesothelioma as a result of exposure to asbestos in talc but those workers would've quite literally been bathing in unprocessed talc. Cosmetic talc is processed to remove asbestiform fibres and other contaminants, not just for safety but to improve the lubricity of the product.
I'm not going to exonerate J&J outright but this really does seem like another case of overly litigious Americans.
the meme of litigious americans, while true (for completely justified reasons), is pressed hard on by tort reform supporters who want to limit the legal protections of american consumers in favor of corporations. americans are litigious because it is one of only means of legal power that consumers in the united states hold.
frankly americans should probably be more litigious than they already are
Awww man, I was hoping to do R&D there since they have a facility so close to my house but now I can't go there in good conscience
The fact that they've not disclosed this should net them a very large fine, but to be honest what is lacking here is compelling evidence that those amounts of asbestos are actually clinically relevant. Is the potential exposure on the order of walking through an old building or what? The fact that talc seems to be generally regarded as safe kinda points to it the potential exposure being pretty minuscule.
Talcum Powder and Cancer
https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/causes-of-cancer/cancer-controversies/cosmetics-and-toiletries#Cosmetics2
Check last years Sensass threads and you'll find one on J&J appealing their lawsuit loss.
Giving babies cancer is a clear violation of the NAP!
Still waiting for the SCOTUS to extend the right to be executed like everybody else to corporations. Any day now.
This was reported by Reuters. They don't just put anything up, the evidence that not only was asbestos laced in some of the powder, but more important that J&J knew that it was there for decades. It isn't a question of if anymore.
That's not really what Headhumpy is arguing, though. At all.
She is arguing that its unlikely that asbestos could make it to the final product because of the processes involved. So yeah, that's pretty relevant to what I was pointing out; J&J already lost a lawsuit that showed that carcinogens did make it to the final product, and Reuters' investigation revealed that J&J knew about the possibility of this internally.
I mean they’ll have to correct me but I’m pretty certain they’re actually arguing about the health effects of the contaminants, not whether they’re there in some samples.
Yes that's exactly what I'm saying, I glanced through some of the reports that the article linked and the amount of asbestos was absolutely tiny. If I recall correctly one sample had 1 square with a single fibre and 1500+ without.
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