• Senator Steve Daines wants to use the "nuclear option" to fund Trump's wall
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https://billingsgazette.com/news/government-and-politics/daines-time-for-the-nuclear-option-to-fund-trump-s/article_3c62af1e-71b2-58cc-823c-c90fb73399d7.html?modalid=followed-notification-modal-32f1db38-acca-11e0-a31e-001cc4c0325c U.S. Sen. Steve Daines is suggesting Senate Republicans use "the nuclear option" to give Donald Trump the $5 billion in border wall funding he wants before Christmas. Daines tweeted Thursday night that the best way to avoid Trump's threatened government shutdown is to approve the U.S. southern border funding. The Montana senator met with the president and Senate leaders Friday morning to discuss next steps. Trump said Thursday he won't sign a congressional stopgap spending bill unless the wall money is included. Without the bill, the federal government will partially shutdown at midnight. It takes 60 votes to avoid filibuster in the Senate, and Republicans don't have the numbers to get there without Democratic support, which is unlikely. Daines is suggesting a rules change, known as the "nuclear option," so that a simple majority of 51 votes is all that is needed to pass the stopgap bill with the wall money added. "House just passed a bill that fully funds government and enables @realDonaldTrump to secure our border/build the wall," Daines tweeted. "Senate can do same by eliminating the filibuster. 51 votes, same as we do for judges!" Trump responded to Daines on Friday morning with a tweet of his own. Several Republicans announced Friday morning that they wouldn't support ending the filibuster rule, including Sens. Jeff Flake, Arizona; Lamar Alexander, Tennessee; Orin Hatch, Utah. Even as some Republicans backed away from supporting a simple majority vote to get the wall money, President Trump pressured Leader Mitch McConnell to pass the nuclear option. Dem leader Harry Reid nuked the filibuster for judges and the Cabinet, Mitch did it for the Supreme Court. If they get rid of the filibuster for spending bills all that's left is to kill the filibuster completely.
Bad idea, these rule changes always eventually backfire on the party that enacts them.
Mitch already said he wont, because he knows repubs use it all the time when they are minority as well.
ya but he's already done it for scotus seats. The reason why he won't here is not because of any percieved future weakness, he's just not got anything to gain. this is 1 out of 7 spending bills, they'll be back here in 8 months and without the house in a few days there's no point as well. If this was a hypathetical 'ACA and gun law repeal that also bans abortions and gays' he'd nuke the filibuster immediately.
The GOP have already shown themselves incapable of thinking farther than now.
Or of thinking at all, for that matter.
best/worst scenario, nuclear option is tried and turns into a dud. Trump get's a egg on his face which he says is not his.
I mean it's pretty clear that the Republicans are no longer interested in democracy anyway(if they ever really were in the modern day *cough* Nixon *cough*). This will just further enshrine their power, since they've already made it very difficult for the Dems to win Senate seats anyway, thanks to gerrymandering and voter suppression.
Can't gerrymander a state. It's simply always going to be hard for Dems to run the senate anymore with their current platform.
Oh true I forgot, but regardless, it's become abundantly clear that vast majority of the current Republican held states have been become entirely entrenched in Republican ideology. I'm sure one could make an argument that Republican economics(keep the poor, poor, and blame it on the Dems) and their lack of support in regards to education plays a role in that entrenchment, however.
Who the fuck names something like that.ww
You might see these nuclear threats more since the GOP is growing more desperate but don't have 60 senators
Expect Trump to practically demand the Republican Senate do it or else because he's going to become apocalyptically enraged the longer a Democrat-controlled House both investigates his seemingly-infinite white-collar criminal history and keeps him impotent and gridlocked legislatively. He will make it a mandatory action the Senate "has" to take before the 2020 elections (or else he'll smash some of the windows again) because Democrats are poised to do to him exactly what Republicans did to Obama (and I'm sure there are tweets from Trump supporting them at the time). I'll be shocked if we make it to May without Trump thundering on Twitter that he will punish Republicans or the Senate in general unless they remove the filibuster on everything so Republicans don't have to compromise with Democrats to pass anything at all in the Senate.
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