Why should care about him when he run a long running nationwide spoiler party for years...
Oh, I see he was Liberal Democratic Party's first leader. OK then, that's your way. (Without being mean this time)
are you ok
I'm not trying to be an ass, but what are you trying to say?
Yeah, I read that response about ten times and I'm still not too sure what point is being conveyed. Dislike of a Lib Dem because he was part of a third-party that managed to acquire votes? Sorry that the UK isn't as much of a two-party state as the US, and thank god as well.
While is unironically true now, But back then before the 1960s that UK was majorly of time a two-party system as country's first two parties were Conservatives and Liberals (the predecessor of modern day Liberal Democrats) before Labour knock them out since 1910s and continue stay as third party for until briefly 2010-12 period if you look pre-2015 election national polls.
Yeah, I know British history too; it comes as part of being British. But we're in 2018 now, in case you forgot to look at your calendar. The UK has moved on, albeit slowly and I think we're at risk of shifting backwards, but that still doesn't answer why you seem to direct such disdain towards this man just for being a Liberal Democrat.
Besides being nationwide and national spoiler party, I don't fully like their Centrism or Social Liberalism due I feel back then and now politically stupid to literal acting-like Businessperson disguise as convinced and 'charismatic' politicians like in US.
Not sure I understand 'spoiler party'. You mean they take votes away from the Tories and Labour? Good. It prevents complete domination from either side, even if it only something as small as 11 seats. The current UK political system works with third-parties and though the current voting method kinda fucks them over, they can still have a purpose - their contribution to a parliamentary vote can make or break it, and that gives them importance & purpose. It's a good thing. Also, your last sentence also applies strikingly to Tories as well.
have some fucking respect jesus christ the guy just died
why even post if you're just going to say something useless and rude
RIP, the best high representative of BIH.
Aren't the Lib Dems UK's Conservative-but-not-crazy party? I can respect that.
In that case, rest in peace.
They do what it says on the tin, Liberal Democrats. Centre left/centrist depending on how you define it
Under Vince Cable, the Liberal Democrats currently support:
No Brexit
No cutting of tuition fees, rather allowing students to fund them through endowments
Focus academic ranking of schools on perceptions of pupils, rather than exam results
Government-funded lecturer pensions
Increased government spending
"Tackling inequality"
Less cuts to benefits
Etc.
Sounds alright, except Cable has also said he's going to resign after Brexit is resolved (or dismissed) and once his party reforms have been accepted. So, the Lib Dems are in a bit of a tricky spot at the moment because despite growing negative reception of the Tories and Labour, particularly the former, the Lib Dems aren't seeing much growth. The Lib Dems had 62 seats in 2010, and now they have 11 - they actually did better in 2017 than in 2015 but their recovery is pitiful at best. Cable isn't super popular so if we see an election in the next few months, don't expect skyrocketing support for the centrists, even if they have been pushing the idea of a second referendum the longest. It's a shame, because Nick Clegg actually wasn't too bad - I'm one of the few people that won't hold the tuition fees fiasco against him for the rest of his life - and I'd like to see a period of prosperity for the Lib Dems; even though I said earlier that they serve a purpose, which they do, this purpose is mostly quantitative in terms of their contribution to parliamentary votes. They're still a small third-party at the end of the day; if we're going to call them a 'spoiler party', they're definitely on the periphery of being such.
Lib Dems need a good leader, and they've not had one for many years now.
The Lib Dems are a combination of centrists, centre-left, and centre-right members. You get cemtrists - the people who just will go middle of the road for everything; the centre-left - mostly Lloyd Gerge/Beveridge types that would have fit into the liberal party and the SDP; the centre-right; the Orange Book free-marketeers like Nick Clegg and many milquetoast would-be Tories. In terms of factionalism within the Lib Dems, it's mostly divided between the latter two as centrists generally can be put into one camp or the other. What they all have in common is their socially-liberal stance on issues. More recently, they've branded themselves as the "no Brexit" party, which makes sense given that centre-left and centre-right people generally support remaining in the EU. Personally, I detest the Lib Dems as I see them to be hugely naive in that they never do enough to solve issues.
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