• Trump's 'Merry Christmas' pledge fails to manifest at his own businesses
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/23/trump-war-on-christmas-happy-holidays-businesses Well it's finally confirmed, Christmas is now illegal and those who celebrate it will be executed.......... what a rotten way to die
its almost like businesses and people had a pluralist reason to not specifically use merry christmas. But hey culture war, I just saw a group of 60 year olds bicker about the war on rudolf the red nosed reindeer next to a shelf full of dvds of said movie
Trumps WAR on CHRISTMAS is HERE If someone bitched about someone saying happy holidays in front of me, I'd call them an idiot. It's Christian PC police sanitation, they don't want to know that Jews and others exists as well. Just look at this garbage lol "proponents of merry chrismas say 'its no big deal'", uhh yeah you idiot, who gives a fuck "They dismiss opponents as hysterical", god no wonder and then they act as if merely changing words takes thought or effort. It's called being inclusive you twat.
I say both Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to customers when at work. One time, I wished an older lady a "Merry Christmas" and she gasped so loudly as if I defied some taboo. She whispered "are we allowed to say that?" to me, as if the PC police were gonna storm the store and take me away for violating some dystopian law. No sane person actually gets offended by these things, only nutjobs get wound up in a knot over it. People like crybaby boomers who think there's a literal war on Christmas, people who have "Put the CHRIST back in CHRISTMAS" bumper stickers on their cars, people who clutch their guns as if it's all they have left, people who tout their support for the "Fuck your feelings" party. These same people who are always on their guard against some shadowy tyrant looming over their heads, a darkness prepared to strip their rights from them, when it's literally just every other sane person around them saying "We also exist, we have holidays too".
For me, I don't care. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays both mean the exact same thing to me
It's the man's hypocrisy that truly makes him degenerate vermin. Not only is he an awful person and a piece of shit, but he makes exceptions to his awful ideology of he stands to lose any money.
I guess he's a conman who will say anything to get elected
Even if someone doesn’t celebrate Christmas, what’s so wrong with wish them a well day with “Merry Christmas” anyway? Like oh you’re Jewish or Muslim? Well damn I didn’t know the message behind “merry Christmas” automatically meant “fuck off” if you aren’t part of a family who puts presents under a tree.
Imagining boomers angrily yelling "Merry Christmas" at people is funny to me.
Even though I’m Jewish I still generally wish people a merry Christmas by default, unless they wish me a Happy Holidays first, then I say it back to them. Or if they mention “I’ll be out of town for ‘the holidays’”
The solution is to find a greeting that panders to all religions, and I've engineered said solution. Happy Chrwanzaukkadays™. You've got Christmas for the Christians, Kwanzaa for the people who like that better, Hanukkah for the Jews, and "happy holidays" for the atheists. It's the Flex Seal of holiday greetings.
This, pretty much. Inclusiveness can suck my dick. You bet all these non-religious people who get their panties in a twist over having Christmas "forced" on them still look forward to having some time off and having a big ol' dinner with the fam in a decorated house while Christmas music plays on the radio. Christmas is such a commercialized holiday that most kids don't even know it's got a religious origin. It's just pure tradition at this point. When someone points out it's about the birth of Jesus Christ, you just ask them what having a decorated tree in the house has to do with Jesus and they shut up. I can't wait for Ramadan to become an official holiday, so we can all be hungry together.
That Stephen Miller interview is a great example of just this.
Is there anyone who even cares if you say Merry Christmas? I don't think anyone would give a shit weather you say either, it's a nice gesture either way.
It's common knowledge that heathen and pagans must be as miserable as possible on the 25th of December. Happiness on that day is reserved solely for the Christian Elect.
And for real, if someone want to wish me a happy Hanukkah, go right ahead I won’t be offended. It’s just polite
Dumb controversies like this make me so glad I'm not in the service industry anymore. Nothing but crotchety old white people getting triggered over Happy Holidays and making scenes. It never mattered to me either way, I was just always told to default to Happy Holidays by management, so when they'd get all "EXCUSE ME YOUNG MAN I THINK YOU MEAN MERRY CHRISTMAS???" I'd just smile and say "Merry Christmas!" It pissed them off so bad how immediately obvious it was they were the easily-offended side and nobody cared nearly as much as they did. Some people are just so insecure that they need to seek out things like this to feel persecuted by in order to validate themselves.
I was standing in line at the grocery store while this dumb boomer was talking to the 16 year old cashier after paying. He finally wrapped up the conversation by saying "I'm not sure we are allowed to say this but Merry Christmas".
These fuckin millenials and their "hey" bullshit pisses me off what's wrong with a good ol' fashioned "hello"? goddamn the world's going nuts, can't even say "howdy" anymore without people making cowboy jokes.
Yes, actually. There are a handful of people out there that go out of their way to point out that the US has separation of church and state and such. I work with such a person (a self proclaimed wiccan) who thinks Christians stole the holiday "from her people" and becomes angry if someone wishes her a Merry Christmas. Of course, these people are a very tiny but vocal minority. Just as those who get upset at "Happy Holidays" is a very tiny but vocal minority. Fun fact about when I was growing up - "Happy Holidays" meant the two main holidays that were back to back at the end of December, Christmas and New Years. But somehow it's become to mean "Happy Holidays Except The Christmas Holiday" to both those tiny but vocal minorities.
Christianity did, in fact, take over a lot of major holidays in many religions as it moved across the globe to make it easier to convert. Christmas is just a winter solstice celebration, specifically it comes mostly from Yule.
That's not actually true. Christians, especially early Christians, went to great pains to differentiate themselves from other religions and pagans. Dec 25 was chosen because it is exactly 9 months after March 25, which is considered the day creation started. Because Christ was there in the beginning, and so "conceived" on March 25, he is then celebrated to have being born 9 months after, on Dec 25th. Of course that wasn't the actual day he was born, only the day that it is celebrated. The idea that Christians took that holiday from some other faith falls flat when considering eastern Christian churches celebrate Christmas in early January, nearly 2 weeks after the west does.
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Even if that's true, who the fuck cares? It's 2018, not the middle ages anymore.
??? No thats because of the Julain/Gregorian calendar differences in the church. January 7th in the Gregorian calender aligns to December 25th on the Julian Calendar. They both celebrate it on the "25th" of their calendar.
I wouldn't go quite that far, there are quite a few commonalities with Christmas and the Roman tradition of Saturnalia, including hanging wreaths, usage of garlands and gift-giving. In addition, the appearance of Christmas as a holiday of celebration comes within a lifetime of Emperor Constantine's conversion to Christianity, which was a point in time where Saturnalia was highly prominent. Combine that with Christmas trees being pagan in origin (though over a millenia later), and it points further toward the probability that Christmas was in part an attempt at converting the populous from Roman mythos to Christianity in the form of cultural re-appropriation.
https://youtu.be/bbgvgk50e94 Rather get drunk and dance around a bonfire yelling gibberish instead of sitting around with a shitty depressing family at this rate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DHbOpS-N0c
"Why is Christmas on December 25th?" Cause a splinter group of Hellenistic Judaism/Messianic Judaism formed a cult and then went ape-shit and tore ass through Hellenistic/Pagan Europe. If people really want the true answer .
You should consider that it was perhaps pagans bringing their old culture into their new faith rather than the faith adapting to foreign cultures. As I said before, Christians took great pains in the early centuries to differentiate themselves from pagans (as Jews did before Christ).
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