Communist China rolls out "Smart" school uniforms 'experiment' - Sensationalist Headlines

http://www.chinapress.com.my/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/20181223FB31-Face-noresize.jpg Chinese source (Numerous sources) : http://www.chinapress.com.my/20181222/%E8%BF%BD%E8%B8%AA%E5%AD%A6%E7%94%9F%E4%BD%8D%E7%BD%AE-%E5%8F%AF%E5%88%B7%E8%84%B8%E4%BB%98%E6%AC%BE-%E4%B8%AD%E5%B0%8F%E5%AD%A6%E6%8E%A8%E6%99%BA%E8%83%BD%E6%A0%A1%E6%9C%8D%E5%AE%9E/ https://eunited.com.my/166434 -- English reporting for those interested: Smart Uniforms With Chip Track Chinese Students, Check Absenteei.. -- Tens of schools in Guizhou and Guangxi in mainland China have issued so-called "Smart" school uniforms as part of a school management program, inciting debate about surveillance and violation of privacy. "Smart School Uniforms" are school uniforms implanted with non-battery using, wash and iron resistant RFID chips, linked to the schools' website to allow parents and teachers all-weather tracking of students whereabouts, studying performance (such as if the student is sleeping on class), and even biometric data. When registering and redeeming their school uniforms, the school will input the student's physical features (such as a photo of their face, and medical data) into a chip, and link it to a "Student Management App". The chip will send data to the school network about the student's attendance (and time of), class performance, exam results, and all of this will be sent via a mobile app in real-time to parents for 'reference'. The system can detect whether the student is within the school, and can send a report to the school and parents to pinpoint the exact location of a student whenever detected skipping classes or absent without leave. School canteens also have integrated facial recognition technologies, allowing students to "pay-via-face" without using cash, with the aim of "stopping problems such as wealthy showoffs, blackmail, stealing etc." and to allow parents to track the spending habits of their children. All collected ata is stored in a cloud server of Guizhou Guanyu Technologies, and many have expressed concern of this control extending beyond the school, and whether it overly expands the "jurisdictional authority" of schools. A principal of a Guizhou-based school is quoted as saying: "Under most circumstances, the school will not unilatery track the movement of students outside the school, only when a student goes missing, or skips class, do we activate this feature to assist in locating them." But in the wake of increasingly frequent safety incidents in schools in recent years, this is expected to be widespread within mainland China soon.

China's a shithole

China's not real.

Reminder that some people in mainland China actually think they're getting more freedom than before. (I wish this was made up)

I'm so proud of my countrymen. Chinapress is a Malaysian news outlet. https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/488/02e9c3b5-869c-4bfe-ab6d-f1a5595a449e/react.png

China scares me with how much of this dystopian shit they're just getting away with. They've got near total control over their own population and the economic strength to push their influence onto everyone else without consequence and I don't see them stopping anytime soon.

They're not stopping because no one's making them stop; the best counter to the PRC, the Republic of China on Taiwan, has no official diplomatic support, or currently, the focus to push real pressure onto the PRC (and frankly, due to US objection in a number of historical events, the ROC and the world in general have missed the "easy" chances to kill off the communists) Meanwhile the world by far is too busy being seduced by all the money and economic benefits the PRC holds to really want to do anything about all of this.

This is now, presumably still early days for enacting their ultimate vision. Imagine the PRC in a few decades from now when they have absolute control. It would not surprise me if they end up implanting life-long chips in babies at birth.

start supporting taiwan boys china is fucking scary

This is confusing me too. As far as I know, it really can't do any of that. The article specifically says that there are no batteries, so the system is using passive tags, but the most a passive RFID tag can do is trigger sensors in doors. They can't finely track location, store biometrics, or measure vitals like the article states.

It might be misreporting, other sources don't seem to mention RFID, just that it's a chip.

Cut the chip out and put it into your responsible classmates uniform? Totally not suspicious when 30 kids enter the classroom at the exact same moment, but who cares.

China is like a testing bed for how to implement Dystopian shit into other countries.

It operates in conjunction with facial-recognition cameras plastered all over the place. It is made to keep students IN the school premise once they checked in.

So what's the culture like over there that so many people would support this?

Ban George Orwell books: Check Begin mass surveillance of citizens: Check Lack of democracy in choosing elected officials: Check Questionable divide in power between the rich and poor: Check We're going all in boys

My parents and a friend or two are blatantly pro-China, I can only speak on behalf of my own observation. Many are bedazzled by China's economic powerhouse, but oblivious to their political motivation. Again, east Asia culture idolizes PEACE and CONTROL. "A tool to curb delinquents? Sounds awesome! China's so ahead of every country in this world! Meanwhile the west is full of shootings and protests, very chaotic and undesirable." Political awareness always has been non-existent, people vote and talk as if a soccer game without much understanding in the workings of politics.

This is becoming just like MGS4, with constant monitoring of the masses status from top to bottom. They probably can't do all that the article says, until they somehow can use people as biological batteries.

I honestly think most of the ratings are done joking or sarcastically, the comments below that are more lukewarm or negative. If you're asking about mainland China though, they don't, but the situation in the PRC is that it doesn't matter if you support something or not, if the powers that be want it, it will be done. The average citizen can't do anything meaningful about these but submit. That said, something brought up in previous posts is definitely a big issue, the ignorance of most overseas (Southeast Asia) and mainland Chinese is frustrating, most eat up PRC propaganda and don't know it, and so become dazzled by the apparent "rise" of the PRC, while completely being just as oblivious to the history and acts of the PRC/CCP and how every single thing they do to China is going to backfire so hard one day or create even more problems. -- Overseas Chinese: Most overseas Chinese in southeast Asia either interact with more "international" things or due to language barrier (other than English, Malaysia and Singapore teach PRC Simplified Chinese) they mainly interact with mainland media, which in turn introduces them to a host of propaganda and twisted facts, and they don't know any better. Chinese language media in Malaysia isn't exactly free from PRC influence either (and/or they're too stupid), I have seen an article on either a Sinchew or Sihua Daily newspaper (two of the main major Chinese language media in Malaysia) that kisses the ass of the CCP regarding their 1980s "reforms" (which on the surface seems like the CCP did a good thing for once, but in reality they simply fixed a basic thing they fucked up and now they're patting themselves on the back all the time about it), The article also goes with this mentality I hear from most mainlanders too much : "Yes Mao did mistakes, but recognize his efforts and credit too!" (yeah fucking right) But, overseas Chinese that aren't fed mainland propaganda-filled stuff all day usually are not pro-PRC (they're either pro-ROC or neutral). Generally most don't really care about China (ROC/PRC) affairs that much. -- Mainland Chinese Some mainlanders have a problem of not being able to separate China from the CCP, they think the CCP and PRC completely represent everything that is "China" (something foreigners and overseas Chinese too as well), which itself is a product of ignorance, propaganda, and all the twisting and bending of the facts in the mainland. Then you have the mainlanders that try to downplay the problems and history of the CCP, as in "oh we can only learn from mistakes, the party has improved since!". They don't see just how much, just how deep the destruction was to China by the Chicom, and as we all know, if you can't see a problem, you can't solve it. -- tl:dr Generally, ignorance is the main problem; as for mainland China, a corrupted soul and spirit along with ignorance and blind nationalism. Another thing is that while East Asia culture prefers peace and control, the mainland is DEFINITELY NOT any example of East Asia culture, it's a corrupted twisted form of it.

Asian cultures are very heavy on collectivism as opposed to individualism, so whereas in the west we care a lot about freedom of speech and freedom of whatever else, many Asian cultures care a lot about conformity; something which this smart uniform shit empowers. The whole collectivism vs individualism of east vs west also explains why actual socialistic systems are more prevalent in Asia; the culture is more-compatible with socialism.

Just going to note something on this, while Asian culture does put more focus on order, there is a "way" of doing it that isn't completely bonkers. You wouldn't see this fly in ROC/Taiwan or Japan for example. In other words we in Asia are not exactly the the stereotype "hiveminds" the West thinks we are. What you see on the mainland is corrupted culture mixed with the political control freak of communism.

Ignorance makes the world go round. Blissful thing ain't it? No point denying that every corner of the world has faults.

The US is basically a genocidal imperialist oligarchy but at least we dont have this level of social control yet.

Collectivism isn't the opposite of selfishness as individualism isn't the opposite of selflessness. China based on what I know about it, is extremely collectivist and selfish society, for example.

Can we stop calling China commnunist? They haven't been communist since the days of Deng Xiaoping. It seems like people see an authoritarian country and need to insert a communist boogeyman.

If North Korea calls themselves the Democratic People's Republic seems fair to call them democratic innit?

I see this being posted every now and then, externals aside (Communist Party of China etc.), they may have liberalized their economics (somewhat) and loosened restrictions compared to the Lmao days, but the entire system is still communist / authoritarian in its workings. Chinese traditions and culture do not dictate how things are as a whole there, it's the CCP's political system and political control. You have mandatory political indoctrination classes, CCP commissars in business dealings, a complete lack of moral compass and awareness of what makes China actually China, I think you get the point. oh right and all those hammer and sickle statues and posters about following the party and Winnie The Pooh thought that made major reappearances lately, in case that isn't enough to convince you. Also there are two Chinas in the world so there's that too.

None of the things you have listed are even communist, just authoritarian. Communism is, at its core, an economic system, not a social one. It is based on the Marxist theory that you change the economic base and social changes will follow, not that you just push forward authoritarian policy. It seems that your understanding of communism, like most people's understanding of communism, is "when a self-identifying communist state does something, whatever they do is communism".The examples you give are exampled that have existed in non-communist societies too.

If you looked at the economic policy of China, you'd realise that they are not communist. It doesn't matter what they state themselves to be - communism is an ideology that transcends China so if China claims to be communism - something that they did not define - you can easily claim by looking at actual Marxist and communist sources where the ideological stances are laid out, that they are not communist. I really don't understand what you're getting at with the rest of your argument, but it can be easily discerned that when using Marxist and communist literate as a frame work and when comparing the current economic state of China to that of other capitalist states and the previous economics of pre- Deng Xiaoping China, they are not communist but an incredibly authoritarian state with a mixed economy.