Jokes on them, not even our 3G is great here unless you are in the more expensive D-Netz. (mostly just Vodafone)
I would only get fucking Edge speeds in my hometown...
Although its funny, in some places you actually get 2G, no 3G but 4G with the cheaper ones.
Internet coverage is about the same bullshit here.
I was honestly disappointed when I moved to Germany to find that it has worse quality than in Spain, for the same price. In some towns they still like in the early 2000 with less than 3MB speed.
I kinda forgot 4G is a thing
This country is the most backwards in terms of internet. I pay for expensive mobile and still get shit reception in the middle of a rather big city. Outside of it and on the road its thankfully better but not great. I blame it all on Telekom, but they're even worse when it comes to local home internet.
Huh, telekom is actually pretty good when it comes to home internet.
More expensive and slower than the competition, yes, but actually reliable with close to 0 outages.
Telekom itself is part of the problem though, that's true. Their shitty strategy with "let's keep upgrading vdsl where we have fibre to the (no idea what it's called in English) DSLAM and then copper to the home instead of just Investing some money now and be future-proof" is what's keeping us behind.
http://cdn1.spiegel.de/images/image-1075834-galleryV9-szmz-1075834.jpg
You know that something's kinda wrong when your neighbour gets ten times as much data volume at a cheaper price.
idk my friends that have no choice other than telekom would disagree. One of them has to pay 50€ a month for 16/1 internet and only internet, and he can't even get close to 10mbit. The other friend of mine was promised two years ago they would get 150mbit internet in their area and it said that for one and a half years. Now a few month ago when he checked the site he noticed they silently removed his area and when he called their service they said it was never there to begin with. Absolute scum of a company.
If they would charge normal prices for 16mbit internet then it would be not too bad I guess if there's no other choice in that area, but I pay LESS than they do for 16mbit (that they don't even get) and I get +150mbit internet here. It's bullshit.
We passed a law that require mobile-companies to cover most areas of the country.
The government have selected a few areas that all companies have to cover with a minimum of 30 Mbit/s and 50 Mbit/s. In an effort to stop them getting customers they can't provide for.
Broadband-companies also have a few rules. They have to deliver 80% of their "up to" promised speed and a written minimum (A bit complex language they used. So that is what I gathered).
We do also have a high and brutal competition where a number of companies have gone together.
In Sweden I pay 8 euros for 6gb/month and it accumulates too. So the unused data gets saved up. And the new EU rules allows me to get on the local 3G/4g networks throughout Europe. It's so damn convenient.
I just saw that this data is from 2016, since then we've gotten unlimited data for 25 euro, so that makes Germany look even worse I guess
Kinda interesting, I think in the UK we have a bit of infrastructure envy against the continent, and particularly Germany and France (their trains are generally believed to shit all over ours, which AFAIK is actually true) but looks like we gottem in one area at least
Holy moly, brb moving to denmark
Honestly I've been pretty dissapointed with Europe's mobile networks in general. While the price is absolutely amazing (compared to Australia) the network quality and speeds haven't really been great. I guess I was spoilt in Australia which, despite having shitty home internet, had outstanding 4G speeds
"5G" includes improvements to the LTE radio tech, that's why people want it.
The actual 60 GHz 5G is 100% memebeam technology that only works in super populated locations, but the improvements to LTE are still worth it.
In Australia you probably have shitty lattency to everywhere that's not Australia though.
look at all these babies crying when here in Australia our assholes are getting titty fucked
lol, I live in the scottish highlands and I get 10Mbps 4G pretty much everywhere I go. Germany must have really fucked up if even the UK is better at something than you.
Yeah it's pretty rubbish outside of aus to be fair, they are building new undersea cables however, should improve things
Working for a telecom company as technical customer support with business customers, who tend to travel a lot in the EU, its quite noticeable that Germany has worse 4G coverage than other EU countries. It's quite interesting, customers tend to be really surprised.
I started using 150/50 4G at home 1.5 years ago, used over 18TB of data since then. 25€ / month. Get your shit together Germany, Jesus Christ.
Not to generalise, but then there's also this famous picture of a London SAI, compare that to a typical German one.
Anyway, the basic, overly simplified story is this: After the German reunification our country faced a massive budget gap, as the new states (previously screwed by the Sowjet Union) desperately needed money, more than was previously planned. In West Germany, the leading Conservatives either underestimated or intentionally kept quiet about the disastrous economic state of East Germany because ahead of the reunification they were rolling with the "Oh, everything is going to be fine"-train and admitting anything else afterwards would be admitting to have made mistakes, something politicians aren't particularly fond of usually. In the end the Conservatives decided, among many other things, to privatize the German Federal Post or Bundespost. The Bundespost operated, among many other things, postal and telecommunication services.
I've been working for the German Telekom for 10 years now and frankly it's a fucking mess. But the issues we got are just the same kind of issues that health care, and other departments that have been unnecessarily moved to the private sector have to deal with. Mobile and broadband telecommunication in Germany is under relatively free control of private companies who have no responsiblity other than to their stock-holders.
I mean, you could say what you want about the Bundespost. But at least they didn't decide whether you get service or not based on a cost-benefit analysis.
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