Nancy Pelosi elected Speaker of the House of Representatives
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/03/us/politics/nancy-pelosi-speaker-116th-congress.html
Some people don't like her, but honestly, she gets stuff done.
Those kids are dabbing on Paul Ryan's kid
Republicans are grinning
Now the real fun starts.
Conservative media has been trying to run a character assasination campaign like Clinton, but fact is Pelosi ran one of the most productive houses in modern history.
Pelosi was just the least bad option. She's still woefully out of touch with the electorate and she swims in campaign cash. Hopefully in 2020 someone better challenges her.
It's impossible for a candidate to not be monied after Citizens United.
No it isn't. We saw many candidates in this past election win their races while taking no PAC money.
While politicians like AOC (who's now beginning serving today as representative) and Khanna are already opposed her first decision as re-elected speaker over worrying that PAYGO is just Liberal centrist subtitle of Austerity.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/02/politics/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-democratic-rules/index.html
No they're not. She's an effective speaker and that's why Republicans have been running the smear campaign against her.
I don't think it's a bad idea to cut spending or increase taxes when you're proposing a system as large as universal healthcare. We shouldn't balloon the debt anymore than we currently have
People always focus on the failures like Bernie and Beto. I apologize for forgetting the House victories, but the Speaker will never not be rich because of how the position works.
But Democratic leadership doesn't actually want to do universal healthcare, which is why they're trying to push this requirement through in an attempt to kneecap legislative momentum.
I think it's in their platform though
Read the platform very carefully for the wiggle room they leave. If you ask Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi directly whether they support Medicare for all/single payer, they will tap dance around the question. They'll say things like "universal access" and "making healthcare affordable to all" which is not the same thing. They are using weasel words for a reason. Find me a quote from either of them proposing a direct, unequivocal support of universal healthcare, not a public option/expansion of Obama-care, and I will eat my hat.
Well not entirely, that they want a more super and truly left-wing version of Universal Healthcare like 'Medicare-for-all' (Single-payer healthcare) policy to be avoid comparing with "Obamacare" Democrats which itself is sorta more a pseudo-version of Universal Healthcare for center-right Americans.
https://democrats.org/about/party-platform/#universal-health
Democrats believe that health care is a right, not a privilege, and our health care system should put people before profits. Thanks to the hard work of President Obama and Democrats in Congress, we took a critically important step toward the goal of universal health care by passing the Affordable Care Act, which has covered 20 million more Americans and ensured millions more will never be denied coverage because of a pre-existing condition. Democrats will never falter in our generations-long fight to guarantee health care as a fundamental right for every American. As part of that guarantee, Americans should be able to access public coverage through a public option, and those over 55 should be able to opt in to Medicare. Democrats will empower the states, which are the true laboratories of democracy, to use innovation waivers under the ACA to develop unique locally tailored approaches to health coverage. This will include removing barriers to states which seek to experiment with plans to ensure universal health care to every person in their state. By contrast, Donald Trump wants to repeal the ACA, leaving tens of millions of Americans without coverage.
not a public option/expansion of Obama-care
It's right there in bold, dude. They support a public option and a Medicare buy in for people over 55. That is not universal, single-payer healthcare. So what if they're nice enough not to step on the individual states who try to implement their own universal plans? They still don't support it nationally. My hat remains uneaten.
It's gonna be really fucking sad in 2 years when the republicans sweep literally everything again because the left is extremely busy in-fighting and will lose the plot of the novel
What's wrong with a public option?
Firstly, can you please acknowledge that Democratic leadership does not support single-payer?
A public option leaves the amoral, greedy, cash sucking for-profit health insurance industry intact and in control. Anywhere between 58% and 70% of the country, and 80% of Democrats specifically, support going all the way with single-payer. You explain to me why it's okay for Democratic leadership to only meet their own constituents halfway.
Read the thread borealis linked
What in-fighting? The progressive left that just got elected to Congress is actually quite unified and they are very clear on their policy goals. The opposition is coming from the old guard in Democratic leadership who are not representing the will of their constituents. If the Republicans sweep in 2 years it's because of the establishment Democrats continuing to stab their own voters in the back, which they do over and over.
Isn't the PAYGO policy just that you can't fund all these new programs you want with infinite debt like how Republicans fund their tax cuts? It makes sense you'd need to raise taxes to pay for some of the new things we want.
It's ambiguous to me at this point
Can you give me a source?
Separating the party into 2 camps is infighting btw
Then you're just being willfully ignorant tbh. Pelosi and Steny Hoyer (the majority leader) haven't co-sponsored HR 676, which is the Medicare for all bill.
70% of Americans and 85% of Democrats in this Reuters-Ipsos poll.
One camp is representing their voters and the other camp is representing corporate donors. You give me your take on the reason for the infighting and how it can be resolved.
I think it's immature to start name-calling because I'm unconvinced with a few limited pieces of evidence in front of me.
What's the difference between medicare for all and a public option? Is medicare not the public option?
You may find this hard to believe but there are people in this country who are conservative enough to not agree with progressives, but liberal enough not to vote Republican. There are people with different opinions, you know
No shit genius, but it'd help out a lot if those conservatives would attempt to pull the GOP out of its corrupt asshole.
PAYGO would essentially never allow any debt at all.
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