• For Owners of Amazon’s Ring Security Cameras, Strangers May Have Been Watching
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https://theintercept.com/2019/01/10/amazon-ring-security-camera/ Ring provided its Ukraine-based research and development team virtually unfettered access to a folder on Amazon’s S3 cloud storage service that contained every video created by every Ring camera around the world. This would amount to an enormous list of highly sensitive files that could be easily browsed and viewed. Downloading and sharing these customer video files would have required little more than a click. At the time the Ukrainian access was provided, the video files were left unencrypted, the source said, because of Ring leadership’s “sense that encryption would make the company less valuable,” owing to the expense of implementing encryption and lost revenue opportunities due to restricted access. The Ukraine team was also provided with a corresponding database that linked each specific video file to corresponding specific Ring customers. Ring used its Ukrainian “data operators” as a crutch for its lackluster artificial intelligence efforts, manually tagging and labeling objects in a given video as part of a “training” process to teach software with the hope that it might be able to detect such things on its own in the near future. This process is still apparently underway years later: Ring Labs, the name of the Ukrainian operation, is still employing people as data operators, according to LinkedIn, and posting job listings for vacant video-tagging gigs: “You must be able to recognize and tag all moving objects in the video correctly with high accuracy,” reads one job ad. “Be ready for rapid changes in tasks in the same way as be ready for long monotonous work.”
They can watch me undress aaall day baby c: After all, they're the ones who'd suffer more
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This goes for a lot of other, similar, products, too. App that "scans" your grocery receipts from photos? Human labour. Basically anything that doesn't reply faster than a human possibly could and "recognises" things for you is most likely still outsourced to places like this at this point.
So now we're at the point where we just sell access to people's security cameras huh? We need another round of privacy protection laws.
Wow, who didn't see this coming? It's almost like these devices that are designed to collect data are storing it somewhere that you don't know or have control over.
Internet of Shit.
I hate my own hypocrisy coz I've got the alexa speaker thing but these facebook/amazon/google security camera just seems like a super on the nose data collection method. But I never knew that they outsourced the facial identification to humans. After initial publication, Ring spokesperson Yassi Shahmiri told The Intercept that “Ring employees never have and never did provide employees with access to livestreams of their Ring devices,” a claim contradicted by multiple sources. Big fuckin think
Does anyone remember that thread we had that just had shitloads of links to open IP cameras?
ya I remember some article a while ago where some life hack level device was even tapping into services where they've just put someone in front of a computer to read written words and transcribe it to text. its not like these sort of things are new inventions either, its just globalism and the internet lets you go to the cheapest labor market possible to do these sort of hacks.
Yikes. You'd think Amazon would have picked up on this during the purchase and bitch-slapped them.
Eh, given Amazon's track record with the Dot & Echo I'm certain there's a segment of Amazon that didn't care how it was done and still saw it as a data collection/selling opportunity to ad firms.
At the time the Ukrainian access was provided, the video files were left unencrypted, the source said, because of Ring leadership’s “sense that encryption would make the company less valuable,” owing to the expense of implementing encryption and lost revenue opportunities due to restricted access. The Ukraine team was also provided with a corresponding database that linked each specific video file to corresponding specific Ring customers. Congrats now nobody will buy it lol
You can find them (and most other iot things) with Shodan.
I remember some videos of ones that for some reason had intercoms built into them. One of asking a kid on a nannycam if he liked memes and then playing sanic, another of just loud micspam over a classroom
I bought 2 Chinese IP cameras from eBay, but when they arrived I found out they were cloud IP cameras only at first. I had to use an app, and register an account to be able to connect them to WiFi, so I used a throwaway email address for that. When I started to use them full time, I blocked them from accessing the internet altogether, and figured out how to access the video stream. Later on I wanted to figure out how to gain access to the telnet shell, only way I could do that was by googling the SoC model name which led me right to the credentials. And hey, the model number of that SoC also led me to a github page which I put onto an SD card, installed on both cameras and now they run a tiny web server giving me access to the PTZ controls, so I finally have full control over them as I hoped to achieve.
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