There's something cathartic about seeing companies getting fucking slammed by regulatory boards
Now let's hope this gets the ball rolling against Mastercard conspiring with/coercing paypal and stripe to shut out patreon's competitors and other such nefarious shit.
Hold up, does MC own patreon?
I wish the U.S. gave enough of a shit to stop these companies' shitty business practices.
I concur unfortunately, we probably won't see anyone in power that does give a damn for a long long time (if ever, but one could have hope)
Not quite. The person in charge of the patereon purges and their 'trust and safety' team, a woman named Jackalyn Heart, formerly held a high ranking position in PayPal. And Paypal/paypals founders also contributed a large amount (several million dollars i believe) of patreon's first stage of funding to get off the ground, so the two staffs and companies are essentially deeply interlinked at a personal level, which would explain why paypal and stripe (paypal alone commanding 70% of all online transactions) would literally conspire to shut down bitchute, hatreon, subscribe star, etc by stripping them of an effective and convenient way to use their services, which even if a good alternative showed up tomorrow, would deter the majority of people from going "oh yeah i'll support that guy i guess".
However it gets worse. As during that whole fiasco, Patreon's excuse was "well we'd love to honor our promises of not caring about your content, but our financial partners won't let us process payments, so it's out of our hands." (although amusingly half the time they said they were enforcing their own policy, and then the other half they said "it's out of our hands", even within the same paragraph) And while usually they refused to name those "Partners", they did name drop them once or twice.
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Mastercard. (and also Visa. )
Which given mastercard's recent and very public proclimation that they were going to now be political activists as a company lines up all too well. And it's not merely contained to the patreon debacle either, as Stripe and Paypal have also indepedently said "our hands are tied by our financial partners" in cases like Bitchute getting the boot too. And nor is this limited to merely acting against Patreon's competitors sherely out of nepotism, as they've gone after twitter anologues like Gab, they've attempted to go after megaupload, and have also completely cut off WikiLeaks too.
Mastercard and Visa have decided that they're now a moral arbiter, and if they doesn't like you, they've taken upon itself to decide that you now no longer have the right to your own money, one of the most fundimental expressions of and means to freedom we have. It's bad enough that china is doing this at a national scale. But now we're seeing that at an international scale, by organizations that can slip between international boundaries.
Be afraid.
lol if this is about the fascists getting deplatformed, I'm not surprised
dude the image you fucking gave as evidence of them is them replying to "jihadwatchRS"
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This guy, "jihadwatchRS" is Robert Spencer. What is he famous for?
Robert Spencer
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This guy is literally a right wing chud. Why the fuck should we care what this nut-job Fox News pundit who says stuff like, and I quote, "Kudos to Trump for not bowing to the self-appointed arbiters of acceptable opinion.".
Nobody should care about him not getting money to fund his fake news website.
In fact, let's check out his fake news website, since Microsoft apparently decided to call it fake news. Let's look at that article!
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Looks like he's:
Pushing the "Great Replacement" conspiracy theory
Are marked by the SPLC as a literal Hate Group
Complaining about the "leftist agenda"
Yeah, no. I think you're covering for your right-wing buddies by making this post. What the hell is your problem?
Thank you for embodying everything wrong with what's going on here. Your service in illustrating my concerns is appreciated.
Good to see you have no remorse for pushing the battle standard of the alt-right. You wanna crawl back to /pol/ or do you wanna keep getting called out for trying to white knight your buttbuddy right wing nutjob who's scamming readers with conspiracy theories about migration?
I agree with you that he near monopoly that Patreon and Paypal have is downright terrible, especially with Paypal's known douchebaggery.
You're really not helping yourself using Hatreon as an example who went out of their way to piss on creator's rights by using music without permission and more. This is one of those cases where the competition that has come about are just as bad and thus you're stuck with not competition but degrees of shit.
Interesting timing
Mastercard should not be left to expand it's capability to delete it's competitors and act as the world morality police. This is a lot bigger than identity politics shit. The fact you're not getting is that if they can do this arbitrarily to people they don't like, they can do this arbitrarily to people you like.
And here's the kicker, because they have shittons of money they can also run a PR campaign to convince you not to like people at will, which is frankly trivially easy with the current outrage machine. Then they just cut all payment processing ability and goodbye competitor, it even comes with a free defense force of self-rightous people defending anything they do in debates. I don't think we're quite at that stage where this is common but it's happened at least a few times, if you create a situation where it's easy to do this, corporations will do this.
Being able to pay for things and receive payment isn't a basic human right, but because we live in a society where surviva and freedoms require the ability to make and receive payment, increasingly electronically (cash is only 9% of all transactions), i think it makes sense to defend the ability to pay and receive payment as a kind of derived human right. So, the power of credit card companies needs to be reigned in until they completely lose the ability to arbitrarily choose to limit this right. This would mean you can't hurt people you don't like from the internet by blocking other people from giving them money, but it also means we'd be safe at least from the influence of huge international corporations which are a bit more scary than your boogeymen i think, when you consider what continues to happen when those corporations take power through debt manipulation and international court enforcement in small developing nations.
I'm glad you informed me that human rights such as free expression, freedom of association etc only apply to people you deem worthy, and are not universal concepts as i'd once assumed.
I don't know or care who Spencer is, i have never seen any of his content or ideas, i only know that a massive coorporation that controls/gatekeeps the majority of financial interactions has taken upon itself to deem him a wrongthinker, and strip him of his financial freedom on sheer political grounds. If this were the government doing it, it would be catagorically in breach of the first amendment, both for expressoin and i would argue freedom of assembly too.
And i'd also like to point out that companies are only getting away with truly horrible precedent setting things like this because closeted tyrants like yourself cheer them on because it's immidiately convenient for your tribe. I'm sure you never took a moment to concider the basic principals at play, but i really reccomend that you do.
Again, they could be terrible services doing wacky shit, but so long as they're not doing anything illegal, it's irrelevant in the face of monopolistic companies conspiring against them for tyrannical political ends, and to create and enforce a monopoly for themselves and their nepotist buddies like Patreon. Nothing about this is ok.
Totally agree. iamgoofball is an example of someone who fails to see the bigger picture spectularly, very narrowminded and ignorant.
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