The US had Canada arrest Meng on December 1st as she transited through Canada. This was legal according to the extradition treaty Canada and the US have with each other.
Only now is the US actually laying charges and beginning the extradition request. Canada was close to sending her home if the US didn't nut up and provide a concrete reason to detain the nice Chinese lady, and she's been released on bail within Canada. And Trump even suggested, at one point, that the US would be willing to drop the charges and forget about the money laundering, bank fraud, wire fraud, and circumventing international tech-sales sanctions on Iran if China cut them a better trade deal, which made Canada look even worse.
What a fucking shitshow. Another supposedly-important thing that got put on hold for the shutdown because WAAAALLL.
Get ready for random American tourists charged for 'abusing tourist visas'
And existing American prisoners having their cases retried and upgraded to much harsher terms.
Basically the US threw us under the bus. Again.
How does this make sense if the company is Chinese and the restriction are by the US though?
They we're upgrading the telecom network of Iran, which included Huawei using HP hardware in the network. That's a big no-no for Huawei to do.
Even at my university, Iranian and North Korean students aren't allowed into certain places because of these restrictions.
I thought the problem was that they were selling phones there iirc
They may have.
The charges are against them conducting business under a shell company they claim they've relinquished.
I don't care that you rated me a box but I hope you know that this is a thing China's already done in the last two months, largely seen as retaliation for Canada arresting Meng in order to hand her over to the US. Canadian guy with a history of drug trade involvement gets busted and sentenced to jail in China, sensibly enough. He appeals since he doesn't want to be in jail in China if he can help it, and then Meng happens and now he finds himself in an unusually-rapid retrial that delivers a death penalty verdict, just in time to hit back at Canada for daring to arrest Meng on the US' behalf for interfering in what could rightfully be considered China's private business with its clients (Iran among others).
If Meng is extradited to the US, who knows what'll happen to Canada boy (that all depends on how hard the Trudeau government begs China to calm the fuck down) but kangaroo court show (re)trials will probably start happening to Americans detained in China to ratchet up pressure on Trump to let her go and back down.
the trump part is spot on for a man who's only negotiating tactic is hostage taking, he doesn't seem to understand that there are many places like china that are much much better at it than the US.
the AG not bringing charges so quickly is certainly because of how much of the DoJ is just a dumpster fire thanks to Trump, Sessions and the shutdown. Hopefully Barr will lift the hiring freeze and stop purging civil servants but Trump still has left much of that department's leadership empty
Yeah have heard of the case, but the version I read when his name was brought up was the his lawyers wanted to re-appeal, using the Meng case as a way to guarantee him a more lenient sentence. We also don't know if it's a suspended death sentence, which one of his Chinese friend's got.
I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that China are going to re-appeal US citizens in jail and make their sentences harsher, but from my perspective the political gains are 0. And they'll only paint themselves even worse in the public light, even among their own people.
What I think will happen is, old diplomats and American citizens with certain status and "dubious" connections (in the eyes of the PRC) will be arrested more freely, instead of being monitored. The arrests aren't won't be "random tourists" as ign was insinuating, and it hasn't been random tourists either.
I definitely don't think China's going to ratchet up the crazy to the level of just kidnapping random tourists off the street and throwing them in kangaroo court for Trump hostage victims, that's way beyond the pale. If you're a US citizen the easiest way to avoid being a hostage victim in China's political machinations is to make sure you don't enter China and then commit crimes or stir the pot in ways the Party doesn't like when you're there, to start with. If they start disappearing random tourists that'll be massively bad for business, and they know that, so that's off the table.
That's fucked up (how the sanctions work). Honestly, once the U.S. product is out of U.S. hands, America shouldn't have a word to say on who uses it for what purpose. If they don't like that, then don't sell.
It won't be tourists, it will be competing Canadian and American buisnessmen/people of that sort.
Good advice for anyone, honestly.
Solution: Maybe just don't go to China. "Oh no I don't get to see a smog filled country that exploits the poor and minorities in work camps, genocides politically inconvenient groups and covers up its wrong doings through mass government societal control that makes 1984 look like easy reading."
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