• Psychologists find that adults take girls' pain less seriously
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Gender stereotypes can hurt children -- quite literally. When asked to assess how much pain a child is experiencing based on the observation of identical reactions to a finger-stick, American adults believe boys to be in more pain than girls, according to a new Yale study in the Journal of Pediatric Psychology. Psychologists find that adults take girls' pain less seriously
I can't help but wonder if the root cause is some kind of bizarre ingrained instinctual bias or if it is actually cultural. Either way, it's not okay at all.
same thing extends to doctors too. it took my partner 4 years to get a diagnosis for hypothyroid, and it was because every doctor before the one who finally made the call wouldn't run a full thyroid panel because the majority of them associated her symptoms with "routine girl stuff" and would give her low level antibiotics or painkillers.
I have read that women tend to have more nerve endings, but getting objective analysis right is notoriously difficult._.
Was literally just talking about that shit the other day It's crazy as fuck that stuff that we can very much treat just gets brushed away meanwhile if you say you can't focus sometimes you can get fucking meth for kids
This is why women will never understand the pain a man goes through when he gets the flu.
Amphetamine != Methamphetamine. At all. It's also very effective for people with ADHD.
I thought it was obvious enough hyperbole There are many medicines that doctors will over prescribe, while others they just don't even care about
Doctors are hella skittish about prescribing amphetamines these days btw. Source: someone going through the process of being diagnosed with ADHD and prescribed medicine.
And every time I did a drug test the nurse had to inform the doctor that I would come back positive for amphetamines and provide the prescription
I think there was a study that said when both girls and boys cry at a young age that girls tend to be given attention faster.
Your hyperbole would work better if you said Speed instead.
Don't people abuse Adderall in order to lose weight fast? I would accidentally skip entire meals when I was on it because it is that effective of an appetite suppressant. I would only know I was hungry because I'd have a headache from low blood sugar.
I took a mixture of Adderall and Vyvance when it was still being tested, I was one of the guinea pig kids in test group of 10 at one clinic of all boys. From 5th to 12th, I couldn't eat for breakfast or lunch, the taste of the pill would ruin my morning appitite and the suppress everything after that. I'd have one meal a day so my body would just store it as fat and then as I got heavier, the dosage got bigger. I'm still absolutely livid that both the Doctor and my Parents okayed it to this day because my eating habits and my ability to actually, without medication, find ways to focus and control myself are about as developed as a 12 year old boy. Medication is great, but its often over-prescribed and the bit many miss, over-dosed. I found later while I was in England that my dosage I was getting in the states was twice the maximum they'd give in the UK. ADHD as well is still not as fully understood as people think, the medications out there right now are essentially just choking out any excess energy you have; its not healthy.
I took it once on a whim and felt so shit because I couldn't stomach anything all day. Felt strung out as fuck.
The root cause is having ADHD. You can't just solve it, especially when the school system is effectively engineered in precisely the worst way possible for folks with ADHD to be successful and you need a patch for behavior.
The amount of agrees this post got is frankly disappointing. Amphetamine (adderall, dexedrine) releases dopamine primarily, as well as some norepinephrine and a tiny amount of serotonin. Methamphetamine does much the same thing (except I believe with slightly higher relative levels of dopamine and serotonin), with more potency per mass, which can be compensated for by adjusting the dosage. Get this: https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-9124/desoxyn-oral/details That's the WebMD page for Desoxyn, which is an ADHD medication. The chemical/generic name for it is "methamphetamine," because it is prescription meth. If they are so completely different, why are they both prescribed for ADHD? Source: I have ADHD, take medication (dexedrine), and have done plenty of research. I'm in favor of people being able to access medication. I just think that to deny the close similarity of methamphetamine and amphetamine (you can tell by the names that they are different only by a single methyl group) is to act in bad faith. There are many myths like this that various ADHD patients and doctors have perpetuated, such as the classic "people with ADHD can't get high on their meds, they just feel normal," which is utter bullshit. Pretty much anybody will get very energetic, motivated, and euphoric if they are given a moderately high dose of amphetamine (assuming no nasty side effects occur). People with ADHD don't have mutant brains that somehow don't receive any pleasure or reward at all from a flood of dopamine (though a reduced sensitivity to dopamine may be a cause of the disorder). Finally, the distinction between meth and ADHD meds is likely due to the denigration and stereotyping of illicit drugs as "bad and scary" whereas prescription or legal drugs which are quite similar are seen as "okay, if you need them." Typically lower-class scary street criminals do meth, so we are afraid of meth. People with parents rich enough to afford psychiatrists and who had the time and money to take them to appointments (or provide them transport otherwise), as well as to purchase and distribute their medication. Thus, those drugs aren't scary because "normal" people use them. However, if we drop this facade and attempt to focus on the actual facts, we can see that there isn't much rational reason to view them as so inherently different. In practice they are different, but that is simply a function of prohibition. Street meth is of shitty quality and inconsistent purity because it is an illegal street drug. Prescription drugs are safer because they are regulated and of consistent purity and knowable dosage. The actual difference is largely only a result of the different ways society treats these products.
My post has one single agree No, it doesn't. Methamphetamine has significantly reduced therapudic application and much higher toxicity because they affect the body and brain differently Differences between Stimulants Literally nobody said this Attempting internet debate while at peak medicated level (as you appear to be) is a bad idea; I only did it a single time, but it's a huge waste and you just come off as manic.
it has something to do with women apparently having a slightly higher pain tolerance, as some study said which makes sense, seeing that childbirth isn't a very nice thing
Your source includes some differences, but doesn't come to any of the conclusions that you've apparently drawn from it. I never said anyone in the thread was saying that, I was just using it as an example of another ADHD-med related myth which draws a false distinction. Try reading that part again and finding where I claimed anyone in the thread had said that. I'm not going to entertain speculation about my "medicated level," as its a rather underhanded non-argument. Suffice it to say that typically my meds have long since worn off at 1AM, when I wrote the previous post. Finally, I am aware of the thread's topic, and I was not the one who began this discussion. It began when you responded with disagreement to an offhand comment by Curls, and has continued organically to where we are now.
I mean that's what I said but alright; the medication is literally a patch. It doesn't get to the root of the behavior.
That statement seems to imply that there is an effective way to actually get to the root of the behavior; therapy can only do so much, and ADHD is deeply rooted in brain function. Then again, you already knew that. I wrote the first post assuming that you were coming from a place of ignorance about ADHD, which it later turned out that you weren't, my bad. I've just heard the whole "if only those damn kids could sit down for a second, we wouldn't be cramming pills down their throats" line way too often.
Its alright my dude. ADHD is still relatively unknown as its actually a very recent classification given developmental disorders and its also been changing with things like ADD being pulled into the ADHD branch alongside other developmental disorders. Its diagnosis, across the board as well, is different not only from Country to Country, but from region to region within those countries because the symptoms of ADHD can and will develop so differently from person to person. It also doens't help that ADHD has symptoms that could be related to any other number of issues such as depression or anxiety disorders. It also affects the sexes differently, with the average case for girls going under diagnosed because they don't show the outward energy that young boys do with ADHD on average. Its actually not widely known but ADHD matures with adults and ADHD can actually be 'matured' out of but it can also change and shift as one ages and matures themselves. How it matures is also not well known because the Millennial generation were the first to be diagnosed in any serious capacity with ADHD and we're just growing up into adults with many reaching their mid 30s. These unknowns, personable changes and more are even more apparent in our usage of medication because we use known Amphetamines which again a really just a patch. They deal with the core symptoms but we could do far better through developing better learning strategies, incentivizing good behavior and etc. But because we have the medication, why bother?
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