Maybe Russia getd the feeling their golden boy could lose and Tulsi is their consolation prize?
So Russia’s gonna help a democrat this time huh?
So tearing the Republicans out and throwing half the country into shock and anger was the plan?
Legit; I'm getting sick of their shit.
Russia, China and the US are going to destroy this world.
Russia has no allegiance to anyone but themselves. The entire reason they've been fucking with our elections is to cause as much as internal chaos and destruction as possible in order to destabilize the US and weaken our position both internally and on the world stage. Trump has handed them so much shit in the past 2 years of his presidency between Syria, a weakening of NATO, the establishment of tariffs that are wrecking our economy, and so much more in the form of cutting diplomatic ties, they must be positively ecstatic how much has been done thanks to their cyberwarfare division. The modern war is not won with weapons but information manipulation.
To me it feels like they always back the most volatile option at any point and right now democrats winning in any major capacity seems like the more volatile option.
Russia helped left leaning candidates in 2016, too. Jill Stein and Bernie Sanders were prominently supported by GRU propaganda and social engineering campaigns in order to help split the Democratic vote. The same will be true in 2020, to include Gabbard. Trump is 100% who they want to win again, and sowing further divisions and spoiler candidates helps accomplish that.
You don't stop, do you?
Cite your sources.
I'm sorry, but for a poster of your reputation this tinfoil hat donning tier conspiracy drivel is quite frankly baseless and atrocious without any reputable sources cited. Please state your sources to back up these claims and I might start to come round to your theory.
This isn't some big secret...
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/26/facebook-russia-trump-sanders-stein-243172
He's right though. And it is well known information as media reported on it after it was revealed in Muller's indictment on the Russian nationals behind the "Internet Research Agency".
https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download
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You finally take three threads to only given prove you not acting like so Stereotypical Anti-Trump Russiagate and Democratic loyalist-like conspiracy theory nut, Is just this using a Politico article who were either or not biased for Hillary's ego back then to proved your point.
And even we supposed to believe if either Jill and Bernie were supposedly already know about the bots but not care to "poor damaging" Clinton win in general election...
Except for latter, that in February, 2018 revealed Bernie was indeed unaware the Russian bots was on his campaign until was back then informed via Interview that he did supporting your hatred on this Russian bots issue?
See from Real Clear Politics website
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/02/21/bernie_sanders_i_did_not_know_russian_bots_were_promoting_my_campaign_real_question_is_about_clinton.html
And since I was Jill Supporter, And I see from her social media accounts (with Twitter account where she criticized this more majorly the time) seems she like acting she was already heard about this and clearly was serious that don't believe it, which resulted her to 'calling out' you folk for hypocrisy and any passive negative attacking on her after since last presidential election was over.
Man, not trying to be rude, but I'm honestly struggling to understand what it is you're trying to say here. It sounds like you're trying to say that I'm accusing Stein and Sanders of knowingly collaborating with Russia's attack. If that's the case, I'd like to be clear: I'm not! The only candidate I believe knowingly and enthusiastically engaged in a criminal conspiracy to defraud the electorate and undermine out national security to achieve political power is Donald Trump and his campaign leadership.
This article mentions nothing about Sanders, except by mentioning his name. No articles, no examples.
Your excerpt has one instance of Sanders in the examples, and it simply states that they support Sanders and Stein. Stein is mentioned directly in 46b.
All of this aside though. These efforts were only possible because of the actions of the DNC during the election. Had they actually made an effort to facilitate a fair primary and not force Clinton down the throats of voters, they wouldn't have backed themselves into the corner that allowed these divisive campaigns to happen. None of these things caused people to not vote Hillary in the general. We've had that discussion in every thread it comes up. The number of people who flipped to Trump who were otherwise Democratic was figured to be minimal.
The only thing it shows is that Russia was meddling in elections and trying to sew discord wherever they could.
That's what you keep indirect treating Sanders as in last three threads without any prove until now with kinda 'understanding'. And for Jill was and (sadly for me [sic]) still victim to this just because she not Democrat and was Green Party member or not belong to Democratic Party's Party line Orthodox BS.
Ok, But still has no good reason on attacking him with this unintentional conspiracy theory-like ramblings on him as supposedly believing he was working with Putin himself?
A couple of points in no particular order:
1) Yeah, our system is broken as fuck, and Russia is just taking advantage of that. No argument there.
2) Sanders is not a Democrat, doesn't play nice with the Democratic party, and only registered as Democrat so he could run for the nomination. That's WHY a lot of folks like him. I get that. But serious question: why would the Democratic party push their own resources to a candidate that is emphatically NOT a member of the party, NOT cooperative towards their objectives, and runs a campaign focused largely on attacking them? Setting aside how you feel about the party system, Primaries are a party affair by their very nature. They are to determine who will represent the party, and the party ultimately has the ability to nominate whoever the hell they want even without a public vote -- though they shouldn't.
3) I'm not sure what else I can do, man. You now have documents directly from the Intel report on this stating in no uncertain terms that Russia did, in fact, utilize pro-Stein and pro-Sanders messaging to disrupt the process, and your in a thread about them doing the exact same thing with another candidate for 2020. What more do you feckin' need to accept that this isn't just some crackpot conspiracy theory I pulled out of my ass? Lol
Thanks for providing a source and I've read through it and it's very legitimate.
Why the hell would Russia try to push Trump again? That's not happening, he's simply not going to win.
That's horrendously optimistic, people didn't think Trump was going to win the first time, and we didn't think that Leave would win. I think after all this we're still underestimating the powerful combination of alienation and manufactured consent, we gotta learn that lesson fast, and start reshaping our world in response.
Why push Trump when you can push two other opposing parties, inevitably resulting in a Trump win?
Wait, we're taking an article predicated on believing New Knowledge seriously?
NBC News, to Claim Russia Supports Tulsi Gabbard, Relies on Firm..
Came here to link what Goberfish already posted. This is McCarthy-tier levels of smearing and we're going to see a lot more of it leveled towards left-wing candidates heading into the primaries.
Yep, That’s what reason to not put anything on description for this news of how this is one of cases, they will smear anti-establishment candidates like Tulsi Gabbard.
David Duke just endorsed Gabbard and she rejected the endorsement lol
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