A contractor for Verizon? That's the last thing I would have expected
Nah sounds par for course to me. Verizon are surprisingly braindead for how competent they are at being an evil mega-corp.
Not only that but a subcontractor for that contractor.
And because of that neither Verizon nor the contractor will ever face any of the consequences because they'll just pin the blame on the subcontractor, the subcontractor will take all of the fees and whatnot, close up shop, create another subcontracting company and nothing will ever change.
Fuck this system.
Are you implying that it would be fair to blame this on a corporation that's two levels removed from the problem?
How could they have predicted that this would happen? You might as well blame the city for allowing Verizon to install it in the first place.
The thing is that there are systems in place that should hold each group responsible. Part of my job directly involves those systems. The people we sell to and work with, from banks and insurance companies to federal agencies all expect us to meet certain compliance requirements that check a large portion of our operations. For instance we sold a single piece of software to a bank and they send us "lite" compliance assessments of around 500 questions that probe everything from our firewall and anti-virus policies, our employee handbook and HR policies, and the training for our engineers, assembly technicians, and field technicians. And this is a small one compared to some that can be thousands of questions and ask about basically every single facet of your operations. And they expect evidence when you respond to these assessments. And if you don't comply to any part of their assessment they will order you to fix it and comply or they penalize you, often times by simply refusing to continue business with you. And they send these things out regularly to their vendors and associates, the most involved ones can be as often as every month two. And further they demand you perform similar checks on your vendors, the people that sell products and services to you.
In short Verizon absolutely sent their contractor a shitload of documentation that also requires evidence that they were following proper procedures and doing things right. Then they demanded that contractor do the same thing with anyone they may have subcontracted to. Which means there is definitely a chain of accountability linking them all together. A state or federal regulator could in fact demand to check all of this or use it as evidence in an investigation.
You don't understand. This is intentionally how they do it, how they intentionally avoid the costs associated with something like this happening. They set up multiple layers of contracting and subcontracting so that when the time comes that an accident like this does happen, all that happens is the subcontractor that caused it is forced to close down and nobody who was affected by the incident gets anything because the subcontractor, which already was a ghost of a company, is in bankruptcy. Meanwhile they silently shuffle workers and other assets over to another new company that can take the fall when this inevitably happens again because it's easier to make new companies than it is to actually fix the kind of practices that cause accidents like this and give people their just dues. All the while using the reasonable justification that they and the other layers they hired in no way could have predicted this to avoid any of the blame for this incident. You're falling for it.
No I don't have any solution to the problem but it's how it works in the corporate world and it's bullshit if you ask me.
Oh wow, I've been to that restaurant too. A lot of subcontracting companies operate in the Bay Area because people want to cut down on costs, so they usually offer up jobs to the lowest bidder. A subcontractor was responsible for helping maintain our apartment complex's systems -- they did a really shitty job of it, and we've now fired them + our previous apartment manager.
Well no, not really. It will show either they didn't due their due diligence and were therefore neglectful in their selection and screening, or else they were diligent in selection and screening but otherwise neglectful in enforcement. Neither speak well for Verizon.
Weird we're not blaming PG&E for once
Yoyo you guys all really don't understand whats up. Verizon has given a contract for a job that needs to be done to a different company that actually can and and is equip do that job. That contracted company has a mishap during the job and is now unable to do an aspect of this job, either it be because of not having the right machines/tools for the job, or not the right skills/licencing, so you need to hire another contractor (which is now the SUB-Contractor) to do the job for you. Everyone makes money in this case, albeit less, because of the outsourcing of work.
But then the sub contractor had someone on a crew, or maybe the subcontractor was an individual owner/employee of his own small business (1 total employed person of company who is the owner) on the work site who fucked up and did something wrong, or was instructed incorrectly or had no real way of telling the correct place to excavate, and everything is now blamed on the sub contractor so Verizon and the original contractor don't get shit on. The subcontractor is the scapegoat.
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