what global downturn?
anyone following the automakers carefully will note, GM, Ford and really the entire sector has been quietly shrinking for some years now, they're just at the point where its just starting to get noticed.
I just hope our automakers don't end up all getting bought out by china
It doesn't help that the likes of GM aren't making cars that people want to buy. They made a whole range of sedans when people want to buy SUVs and crossovers, then the employees pay the penalty because of the company's losses through bad decision making.
Here's a good article from FT that outlines some of the supply chain considerations regarding Honda's plant.
they make a whole range of SUVs nobody wants to buy too, but I'm not sure that's quite it because their decision making looks an awful lot like trying to remove the UAW from their supply chain instead given how they're building bigger plants in mexico and brazil while shuttering their largest union plants in the US and around the globe
Swindon? It's like they're trying to spite Sargon of Akkad
IMO, SUVs are kinda dumb, at least for most people. They're also inefficient. I will never understand Americans' obsession with them.
I think the irony in GM's case is their cars would probably do really well in Europe. Maybe they can replace Honda post Brexit 🙃
Anecdotal, but SUVs make people feel safer than something like a sedan or wagon. I've spoken to a few middle aged SUV drivers, and overwhelmingly their reasons behind owning one are "being in a car this size with a high viewpoint makes me feel more secure while driving" (It probably also helps that the higher viewpoint means they can see around traffic that mostly consists of other SUVs more easily. I like my little Civic, but being comparatively much lower and smaller than other cars makes it much harder to see things while driving).
My uncle is a manager at this factory, pretty shitty for him.
Honestly suvs are annoying as fuck. This is honestly a dumb circle of buying higher cars or whatever to see over the ever increasingly high traffic.
I have a normal car and since most people here have suvs for taking their kids to play sportsball or whatever, whenever i pull up beside them I cant see a god damn thing past them.
55% in Swindon voted leave. They shot themselves in their own feet.
I like SUVs.
I don't like the Soccer Mom Suburban Fortress though. The bane of all drivers.
an aging population that can't get into a car. There might even be a trend of more suv sales as the obesity rate increased. I don't really know. Just anecdotally my father groans and moans every time he has to get into and out of my car.
I feel personally attacked considering i was in the other 45
Wonder if Honda is killing off the Civic hatchback except globally this time, they killed it for the states and finally brought it back for the 10th gen. They currently make all Civic hatchbacks at the Swindon factory, including the current Civic Type-R.
The trick is to buy a car so low that you see under all the others.
http://www.etotheipiplusone.net/pics/meche/2.00gokart/2.00gokart18.jpg
Buy a prone gokart.
No, GM is failing because their vehicles are absolute trash. Manufacturing in the UK for lots of industries revolves around the ease of shipping materials to these factories. Some factories rely on shipments so frequently that they can't even operate for more than a day with what's in storage. Brexit is causing a massive problem for countless factories, especially automotive factories, that rely on rapid shipping of materials.
Dude my car will probably be fucken low enough in 3 years with this shit trend
Decades ago some major television show (either Date Line or 60 Minutes, can't remember which) did a story about trucks and SUVs and how they have better crash safety ratings than cars or station wagons. This is mostly due to them being built to handle rugged terrain and heavy-hauling, but regardless, soccer moms nation-wide started buying them up to haul lil' Timmy to soccer practice and to haul groceries and shit.
So do people here dislike SUV's because of a technical or performance issue or is it because they're so common and people are just associating them with soccer moms? I have a CX 5 and it handles shitty New England winters nicely, which is all I really needed from it.
People here dislike SUVs because they are rather excessive and unnecessary. Very few people actually need an SUV; most things the average modern SUV can do, a Fiat Punto can do while being cheaper to buy, cheaper to run, easier to park, and just less obnoxious.
But because so many people want to be the king of the road, there’s this never-ending arms race for makers to make ever larger and taller SUVs. The result of that is it becomes increasingly unsafe for smaller more genuine cars like the Fiat Punto, as they become dwarfed by all the land yachts on the road.
The CX-5 is most definitely a medium-size SUV. The line between a SUV and a hatchback can be blurry (especially with crossovers), but the largest hatchbacks out there are the Ford Focus, Honda Civic etc. Generally, if the car had a high ride height, it’s an SUV.
Outdated and irrelevant, majority of suvs are overbuilt car chassis.
This would be correct for a traditional 4x4
Granted this was when trucks and SUVs had to be built to task and weren't just a status symbol, and that's the key part there: Status.
People like waving their dicks around for whatever reason.
Retards buy crossovers in droves because "Haha it's a cute little suv! I sit so high up and see the road. So much safer. It CaN DrIvE iN tHe SnOw!"
Meanwhile they're physically less safe than regular cars and far less efficient.
because they're annoying as shit when I'm trying to turn and some fat piece of shit stops right next to me and stops me from being able to see anything. and because they have to give way to two lanes instead of one (like me if I'm turning left, keep in mind this is Australia), means me pulling out is dangerous because I can't see shit, and I'm basically stuck there until they get a big enough gap in both directions of traffic to get their underpowered fat turd moving.
yes
Here's a follow up article from Reuters.
Honda says it could not absorb 10 percent tariff after Brexit | ..
Japanese cars are just better tbh. American cars aren't reliable and the companies have turned towards their financing sector to actually make money
Driving culture is lot different here.
Our public transportation outside of the city is shit or non existent, our commutes are longer (in NJ the average commute is half an hour, at one of my last jobs it was an hour) so people want to be comfortable and a lot of middle class families who buy them have a lot of kids and have an easier time fitting baby car seats in them and so on.
I prefer SUVs for their original purpose, offroading recreation and so on and I completely despise CUVs but I understand why people like them. I'm a truck person myself and my dad is the type of guy who will have a truck before a car for the utility.
Our domestic automakers also can't make a good sedan at all. GM and Ford sedans are basically shitty appliances with no soul to them and terrible history behind economy cars in general whereas Honda and Toyota have a iron grip on the economy car segment thanks to their experience.
If GM just took their RWD Cadillac platforms and downbadged them to Chevy's, or actually just fucking tried to advertise the Chevy SS even though they sold it just to get rid of the Commodores they had laying around they would have a chance with more enthusiasts. Domestic makers only know Trucks, SUVs and muscle cars. Ironically only Fiat-Chrysler seems to understand this which is why they probably haven't done anything to the Dodge lineup in years.
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