[Video] Bethesda Breaks Promise of Cosmetic only Microtransactions
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkXoVc6DuyE
Who'd have guess they'd do that?!?!?
As much of a shitshow as '76 has been, I really hope this doesn't mean Fallout as a franchise ends up being abandoned. It's not that we don't want Fallout, it's that we want a Fallout game that's competently made in terms of gameplay and or story.
I just wish Obsidian was given a chance to make another Fallout game
I knew Obsidian wasn't going to make another Fallout game. But I honestly thought, when 76 was announced but not revealed, that we'd be getting another New Vegas-style game, where Beth hands off the engine and assets to another company.
I honestly didn't care what company got it, I was just so sure we were going to get another lovingly crafted singleplayer trip through the Fallout universe. Imagine my progressive disappointment leading up to release.
Fallout 76 was pretty much developed by another company anyway, a branch of Bethesda who had never touched the franchise IIRC. The love is there, too. Appalachia is an incredible location and the narrative is one of the stronger parts of 76. It was just all ruined by one of the worst, most obviously ill-fated decisions ever made. Why, why did Bethesda think they could pull off a multiplayer experience at this scale?
I'd rather Obsidian straight up owned the IP instead because Bethesda isn't competent enough to manage it without fucking something up
Bethesda Game Studios doesn't exactly have a long row of well-known IPs to fallback in case Fallout goes to shit, other than Elder Scrolls. But if they do discard Fallout and start doing the same thing to Elder Scrolls later on without learning anything from their past mistakes, then they have pretty much dug their own grave.
I just hope their shitty choices don't start leaking out to other franchises, like Doom.
I trust ID Software to not fuck up Doom Eternal
Seems like this shitty was done purposely late in the game so people who've played a while can't refund. This shits exactly why I'll never preorder even with all the bait and tricks they have. I miss AAA games that weren't riddled with nickel and diming bullshit.
After New Vegas, no chance. That game was the biggest possible embarrassment for Bethesda. What was meant to be an easy, zero effort licensing cash in wound up out-selling their own game and turning their DC romp into a distant, unfavorable memory.
Adding onto that, New Vegas ended up being spat out within 18 months, while Fallout 3 had something among the line of four years, and despite that it still managed to blow F3 out of the water.
I mean, sure. You could make the argument that FNV had a head start considering it had the skeleton of Fallout 3 to work with, but the sheer amount of effort put into remaking the mechanics and getting things supported like damage threshold and custom ammo types, it might as well have been an entirely new build of the engine. Not to mention the general boost of quality in terms of writing and smoothness.
Lets not forget also missing the metascore for a bonus by 1 point and missing out on the money, effectively fucking Obsidian over
they should have just given it to them for the sake of PR at that point
The same reason they still buy activision or rockstar or ubishaft
Its kind of a shame knowing that stuff like this happens almost regularly, and a good proportion of people are just going to shrug this going "oh well"
oh and cant wait for the inevitable its just cosmetic its just optional excuse to pop up
I get what you're saying, but I don't think this sentiment really applies to Bethesda just yet. It's not like a Ubisoft or an Activision releasing the same formulaic game every year; Bethesda releases one game every 3-5 years, so it's hard to say if the 76 debacle is indicative of a trend. If whatever their space game was called comes out and it's a bug ridden mess with awful marketing and deceptive business practices then I think your question becomes more valid.
That being said, Fallout 76 has left me real suspicious of Bethesda and it's going to take a lot to get me interested in anything they put out in the future.
We weren't going to see another fallout game for another six plus years anyway. Bethesda has that Starfield game they're working on, probably post-release DLC for it, then TES6 and expansions, then we'll see another Fallout game by Bethesda.
I'd love to see them hand the IP off to a different dev in the meantime to do a side-game, but I doubt we're going to see that, regardless of 76's success or failure.
Because they bought the last one, because their friends are playing that thing the marketing team sold them for six months and frankly they're not interested that the dev team had to sweat blood or lose a couple man years of sleep to make the mans on screen do the memes.
the closest they're gonna look at reviews or critique is facebook and the most youtube will be used is how to break the meta or pass the part with ogre.
welcome to disposable commodity gaming.
They scratch itches. There isn't anything out there like Fallout or Mass Effect and etc.
They're very particular scratches that many people have and it pains me to this day that they're very rarely scratched at all.
I was worried about the whole future of cosmetics in this game, but find myself not really jumping at the moment to say this is completely breaking the promise, but I will say that it does make me wary because for me personally, it's sitting right on that line where it's like.. Really making me squint and scrutinize whatever Bethesda might have planned because it's so close to being unacceptable for me. But to others, zero tolerance.
When this temporary boost was active a little while ago, I didn't even really notice, I saw it on the page, I know I had one of the outfits in my stash already, but unlike this guy, I wouldn't even jump to say 65 is really all that substantial purely because you heal so fast boosts for health have always mattered so little. They seem to have some weekly event thing going on for bonuses, so I really just looked at it almost more like how GTA Online boosts different stuff every week, didn't realize it had touched so close to my boundary though.
I've only not bought an Activision game like Call of Duty because I've lost interest in the series, I got World War II for free off them and I just can't buy into Black Ops 4's shit, the removal of the campaign caused that, the multiplayer monetisation might have been in the game for a while, but at least there was some part of the game that wasn't fucked over by it, instead they removed the campaign to focus on how monetisation.
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They need to steer the fuck away from what theyve done with 76 and go back to a singleplayer rpg story experience.
Hey look, the atomic shop is the most fair DLC shop I have seen
Looks like I can cross this compliment off, goddamnit.
That's not why they removed it, late in development they were told to churn out a new campaign because the current one was too edgy or cut it altogether. Lose/Lose situation.
I have no problem with the developers (ID software) since they've done an excellent job on Doom 2016. It's the publishers (Bethesda) I'm wary of.
Or people could enjoy the games that some companies publish? We all know how much you try to shit on AAA games, but the dev teams for a good chunk of your examples are actually passionate and listening to feedback. You can tell a lot of live went into rdr2's single player, and was a passion project for the studio. Don't let the mp garbage component drag down an amazing story with 10/10 acting.
Listing UBI as an example is even more stupid considering they have stuck with games with small dedicated fanbases even when it wasn't turning mega millions in profits. Prime example was the division or for honor, both got brand new content and entire reworks for free even when the pc playerbase was abysmal for the longest time. Even odyssey has been getting loads of updates to the game's systems for free that were requested by players (which is polymorphing gear for cosmetic reasons, added newgame+, patched in a way to revert the level mechanics back to origins' style, and much more). I would legitimately say ubisoft right now is one of the best publishers when it comes to player feedback and bang for your buck.
Activision tho can just go burn in a corner for being such a piece of shit company.
I've held out hope for a while, but every installment with the exception of New Vegas has only degraded the series further, even if they keep making Fallout I doubt they'll be any good.
Both of these games are huge in China which is why they got 'new content and updates'. You liking a game doesn't elevate the franchise or change the practices of the company publishing it.
I don't shit on anything that hasn't deserved it, and publishers are not developers.
Where are your sources for china apparently taking over the division or for honor by storm to push out updates. For honor especially was dead within weeks of launch and hit well below sales targets.
Also you shit on literally every thread that is about a AAA developer, to the point of being banned for getting so mad.
I haven't been mad on anything presented in this site since creepy pet drowning dude which was probably four years ago or more, so you're certainly not helping your all knowing argument; further you think FH got a chinese update by accident? roflmao.
FH was dead because it's an incredibly short sighted design without enough lateral functions to broaden combat into anything other than 'spam iframes>pushback>guaranteed attack
After the game dropped in the west they launched a free week in china and saw a 150K player jump and so offered a free week in the US for 50K more, if you think them offering the standard chinese model after in injection from tencent was a remarkable coincidence, I got some nVidia stock you can buy too, nevermind them trying to change two other games to make the chinese version the default standardized format.
Speaking of which, you calling me for bias given your nvidia/amd threads threads where facts are nowhere to be found is pretty damn lolworthy. If mine arrows offend thee, pluck them out. No one's forcing you to read anything.
FH got a chinese update as an entirely new faction to go with their new siege mode. There was already a japanese/viking/knights factionn why is it suddenly chinse bias if their faction was added in. Furthermore just because chinese interest spiked during a free weekend, which chinese players gobble up f2p shit regardless the series, doesnt mean they are solely catering to it. Your entire point of that is moot when the newest season's character is a crusader knight for the knights, instead of another chinese character
Also for honor has broaden your bandwagony meta that GB/parry was nerfed into oblivion in favor of feints and unblockables way way way before the chinese f2p week and a year before the chinese faction. They were already reworking entire characters when the "pandering" faction was introduced.
What do you even mean by a standard chinese model? You mean seasons? Because fighting games have been doing that for ages lmao. And the outcry over changing skulls so they were able to sell in china was reverted after their playerbase complained. Why is it bad that ubi stands in and listens to the playerbase for once.
Your entire argument is tied to "heres something that happened with chinese, that must be why they are supporting games!" When I even used asscree odyssey, which is a sp game with 0 online elements. Also you ignored the division as well, hmm wonder why. And saying im biased for AMD when all I did was post articles of Nvidia doing stupid shit and hurting their company and being excited for zen 3, is hilarious. Like I told you before, I have an intel/Nvidia set up and have been for years while telling others to stick to them. Just because I didn't like their latest trends, doesn't mean im biased against them.
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