• Anti-European parties on course to win third of seats in European Parliament
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https://www.eureporter.co/frontpage/2019/02/12/anti-european-parties-on-course-to-win-the-third-of-seats-in-european-parliament-necessary-to-paralyze-the-eu-according-to-new-ecfr-study/ A new study by the European Council on Foreign Relations, (ECFR) reveals that anti-European parties are on course to win the third of seats in the European Parliament needed to frustrate activity, undermine the security and defence of Europe, and ultimately sow discord that could destroy the EU over time.
Divided we stand, united we fall.
Had Trump or Brexit or anything not showed that this is a bad idea?
Can't wait to return to the peace and stability of the first half of 20th century.
i thought we went through this bollocks the last time around
the neoliberals really shouldn't be confused as to why this is happening, but of course, they'll blame anyone but themselves. the system has cannibalised itself. who the fuck knows where we go next.
Authoritarianism, then war if history is any indicator.
From what I can gather at least from the political discourse here in Sweden regarding the EU is that most people are more-so tired of feeling like their country is being maneuvered by a bunch of stroppy elites in Brussels - which I can kind of understand. Legislature being made all the way over there that takes no regard to the individual cultures and situations of the nations it might impact. Generally I'm pro-EU from a market-perspective, but I think it is necessary for the EU to at the very least be changed in such a way that the power can go back to the people of the individual nations. This is what parties in Sweden like the Left Party and the Sweden Democrats have recently decided to tweak their stances for, where as previously they were hard anti-EU "Swexit" parties they're now more about trying to change it from within. An open market, the ability to travel freely - hell, even NATO. It's all good. It's the political discontent itself that fosters the rise of 100% anti-EU parties.
You don't even live in Europe man. Us Belgians get to feel doubly tired because all our politicians on the national level are in Brussels as well.
A House divided against itself cannot stand.
A European an American president's quote to retort to an American commenting on Euroskepticism in Europe We've come full circle
I can't wait to move forward to a world where Brussels isn't very important.
One of these two posters has their priorities straight.
This is really a big brain move. Exercise your right to protest the EU for not working by electing officials who will induce a situation where it won't work.
Self-fulfilling prophecy in action.
The problem is that the open market relies on countries within the EU having the same regulations. If you throw that away and keep free trade between countries, you enter a race to the bottom where the most deregulatory nation gets to spam the rest with low-standard shit, undercut competitors that operate in other nations, and reap the benefits. The reason we have fairly high standards on the products and services that get exchanged within the EU is that we have a supranational entity that legislates on those matters. The only alternative to that would be to remove the open market and make individual trade deals between countries, which would take quite a long time and quickly become a clusterfuck compared to the current streamlined process. The same goes for workers' rights, consumers' rights, etc. Keeping free trade while removing the associated legislative body would quickly result in those things getting on the chopping block.
Let's fight for democracy the right way. By gridlocking the EU with corporate shills spouting the same nationalist bullshit that's always been used to fool idiots into dying for the rich.
It was my understanding that the corporate shills were in opposition to the nations, and view the European Union as an efficient means of extracting valuable rents. The European Union can't really be democratic nor effective because of the way in which its set up in addition to the fundamental contradiction at the heart of it. The European Union cannot function very well if most of the power remains in the hands of the members, so you either get one of two results: 1: You have an impotent union which can't fix any of the problems it's meant to tackle because it doesn't have any power to fix these problems. 2: Most of the nations making it up lose most of their power to Brussels, which will inevitably harm a lot of the smaller or poorer countries. What we have right now is the former with attempts to move towards the latter, both of which together are ultimately destroying it.
This really isn't the case. The consumer protection and data protection legislation in the EU are anti-corporate, and for that matter, anti-globalist - you need only look at the EU's fines imposed on MNCs. In the case of anti-EU proponents, they'd be removing EU nations from the regulatory framework that protects the individuals from exploitation from corporate interests. In regards to democracy, the EU has better implementation of democracy than most national assemblies. Take e.g. the EU/Canada trade agreement, where Wallonia was able to veto the entire process by themselves, until concessions were made to the agreement to protect Wallonian interests. I can't think of any national assembly that provides that power of veto to a constituency. You're right on the topic of impotency - however, you end up with this paradoxical scenario where EU critics will condemn the EU for not addressing e.g. illegal crossings of the Mediterranean, while at the same time withholding from a federalised European solution to securing European borders. So, that's down to national government, not the EU. The EU is only as pervasive as the constituent member states will allow it to be. On conceding power to Brussels: this is the same for any non-isolationist policy. All NATO members concede absolute control over their military policy and expenditure; the consequence is that the NATO bloc is more powerful as a result. This is the same as the EU - concessions in control over bilateral trade policies within the EU has led to greater economic prosperity and removal of barriers on trade. The EU is now the world's largest trading bloc.
Seems like we have to do everything twice. Have a world war twice, to show world wars are bad. Have two European unions, to show we need a union of Europe.
We only have to implement more social gestures, move away from this "all for the corporations, nothing for the people" that led into mistakes like not tracking right if the EU funds on subsidies are being employed right or the whole imposing austerity measures on the south countries. Just vote left, easy as that.
Ah, welcome to gridlock hell EU friends, we've been here for almost 10 years now. Enjoy all of the social problems and issues that have easy fixes, conveniently ignored and overshadowed by anti-immigration sentiment. I don't envy you guys
Hopefully that means that after Trump, US Jr. will be far more successful at not being shit than US Sr. ever was.
ah see, here's the thing, reality always bites when it ensues, it's just that most people, your uncle included, think that data and projections are a lot of hot air that can be wished away if you believe it isn't true. When the said reality ensues, most people tend to double down and look for scapegoats, because it's fundamental nature for people to be stubborn about accepting their mistakes.
Why are people electing other people to destroy what we have worked so hard to do?
"Because the faggots, the femnazis and the communists are destroying our traditions and allowing the sarracens to desecrate our lands." That's it, really. Idiotic, but then again the same idiot reasons are the responsible for Brexit, Trump and other far-right madness. You can thank radical capitalism for making harder to get a decent job, sabotaging education and removing any quality control on the media, which it was just a matter of time stuff like this happened like other times in history.
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