• Youtube Comments can now get you demonetized.
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https://twitter.com/BallingerMom/status/1098583664932331526 https://twitter.com/TeamYouTube/status/1098755827110793216 https://twitter.com/TeamYouTube/status/1098756348626403328
Why you trying to get advertising revenue from videos of your 5 year old kid
So it's a massive shake up due to the whole pedophilic comments that has been discussed lately? Seems about right that many innocent people got caught in that crossfire.
Great, so you can now spam videos you don't like with inappropriate comments and get it demonetised. No way that could be abused.
Youtube needs to stop going full retard over shit that people can't even control.
What kind of content DOES youtube want on its platform? It seems like they just want Jimmy Kimmel and Ellen show clips, but not anybody making their own content at home and uploading it to youtube. Like they're slowly turning youtube into a site to upload promotional material for traditional cable media and not a destination for content itself
YouTube does understand they're killing themselves here right? A lot of the people I watch already use Patreon and don't give a fuck about AdSense or YouTube's money, and don't even put ads on their videos.
for real, if I was a content creator there's no way I could rely on youtube ad revenue because I know they're just gonna pull the rug out from under you at any point and you've got no legal recourse for it
It really sucks when important vessels of media are managed by bloated hierarchy.
Its kind of obvious that its all a part of the plan they have to remove creators entirely, I've kind of known this for a while they don't give a fuck about you and the outrage will ever get them to care. They're sucking the corporate advertising cock hard. youtube is garbage and Susan is an absolute bitch
Another youtube fuckup. I don't understand how they keep doing this shit....
Seriously though very very honestly what is youtube supposed to do? This was started by the companies actually buying the ads raising a stink over the comments of the videos their ads were associated with. I can understand the frustration with having your content demonetized but the only people paying into Youtube are the advertisers and obviously their wishes are more important. Isn't youtube still making huge losses or have they turned around yet? Its not like us the viewers or the 'content creators' are paying into youtube. Yes the content creators enable youtube to get more ad revenue by generating views but if the advertisers themselves pull out there is fuck all revenue to be made. I do not have easy solutions to any of this apart from what a legion of people getting paid to moderate comments and content real time when there is a million hours of video uploaded every X hours? In a business where no one seems to pay anything obviously the only people putting their hands in their pockets will reign supreme. I would understand the outrage more if I was paying a premium for Youtube services and they said my money would no longer go to supporting people I wanted supported. Anyways really long story short apart from the boilerplate 'youtube has gone to shit these days' and 'youtube needs competition' comments that pop up in every discussion I would really really like to hear an honest answer to what the solution to this problem is. Youtube Premium? Paying into channels you like directly (patreon?)?
I am honestly ready to drop youtube like a turd in a toilet the moment the creators I follow can find a better place
The problem is the advertisers somehow thinking bad words and people being mean somehow affect their product or service. They should really stop giving a shit. For example, nordvpn and Big Money Salvia. He's about the most advertiser unfriendly channel on YouTube, and they still sponsor him because they know their service isn't affected by him, or the comments in any way at all.
I dont get why they have to keep finding ways to avoid solving the main problem and have to repeatedly implement things that could mess up alot of peoples jobs
Well time to spam logan Paul's videos
The problem is that they don't actually truly care. They'll do anything for attention. Pepsi rolls advertisements on school shooting coverage. This is ultimately about turning Youtube into television, with big payers, and not random creators
YouTube just doesn't give a single shit about content producers, they could of easily added an "Auto-mod comments" button for content creators to automatically delete demonitising-comments but apparently copy pasting the bad comment flagger bot is too much effort.
Hahaha, what a fucking beautiful catch-22. Either you disable comments and earn nothing because your video won't end up being algorithmically viable. OR You leave comments enabled and earn nothing because your video is demonetized because xXNoScopeFortniterXx wrote "fuck". I fucking hate YouTube.
Yeah, and you think they're going to have a crack team of comment analysts going through the likely MILLIONS of comments made every day on YouTube? No, of course not. Even if they just went by reports there's no humanly possible way to sift through all the garbage and figure out the context to every single instance of vulgarity. They'll put a bot on this like they have with every other process, automating the whole thing and calling it a day.
a lot of the comments that were cited as this being a problem were vague timestamps
iirc you can ban certain words from your comments sections so theoretically you could just like, add every last word even tangentially non-advertiser friendly and have that.
tbh, I think these youtubers should have their own websites with ads on them and then use youtube just for file hosting. The income they make from youtube ads should be auxiliary to the advertising revenue they receive from sponsors or banner ads on their own website, as well as memberships/subscriptions and merchandise, like what Rooster Teeth does. It's weird to me that there are big names on youtube like Game grumps or h3h3 or dunkey that have no web presence other than youtube and maybe twitter
They should just remove the comments section altogether, it barely contributes to the site at all, the only benefit you lose is a small chance at interaction with the content creator.
a- How is that youtubes fault? and b- not every product or service wants to be associated with certain ideas or content no matter what and as advertisers they have the right to choose it. You can argue all you want it doesn't make a difference but if Disney doesn't want their ad over a video with a bunch of paedophilic comments then they have that right. Basically they are saying either stop this from happening or we won't pay you. If users were paying for anything they would have the right to make demands or stop paying for the service but as it stands I can't see any other way but to stop watching things on youtube to send a message. Obviously the message will not reach anyone because a billion other people will continue watching youtube anyway. It is funny to recommend algorithms to moderate comments when a lot of times people complain about the algorithms on youtube fucking everything up and ruining the place. I don't think its a battle that can be won.
It's a discoverability issue. On youtube you have the chance to pop up in trending, related videos or the front page etc. If you rely on just your own website for views, no one is going to find your videos unless they specifically look for them and people will have to go between several different websites to see new videos instead of just using their subscriptions.
from what I understand a lot of content creators have discoverability issues already because youtube's suggested videos feature is shit
PornHub needs to roll out a sfw section
From my perspective, I think this is a knee-jerk reaction to regain the trust of advertisers. 'Trust' is sort of the keyword here, unfortunately the confidence in the algorithm is getting worse: Youtube no longer trust their content creators to moderate themselves, creators no longer trust Youtube to provide security, and advertisers no longer trust Youtube to provide appropriate value for their brands. Users are great at finding problems, but awful at fixing them. As much as I like them to 'trust' the community to self-moderate, I don't think they do. They are engineering their platform to serve the expectation of hundreds of millions of users, in their own direction. It is impossible for them to mold themselves to satisfy everyone's ideal version of Youtube. They need time, yet they will never have enough because issues seem to crop up faster than they can be put down. They really need to trust their users and partners to contribute instead of trying to solve everything using bots.
YouTube is still relevant because it is a subscribed content aggregator that has really good recommendations. The more people you are subscribed to, the less likely you are to go off site for a single content creator every day to check if they've uploaded. Are you gonna check Jontron.com 365 days a year for the 2 days Jontron uploads, or are you gonna check your Youtube subscription box and find a few hours every day?
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