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tbh I've heard a lot of people are upset with Green Book winning because it just did a really bad job at representing what it's saying it does
I don't know much about the movie itself so I can't say much but I will say that this isn't just a "spike lee" thing
Gonna be honest, didn't realise that the Oscars were last night.
A lot of these awards seemed to be attempts at pandering so I'm surprised that most of the ones that WERE pandering didn't get picked.
spike lee made 3 good movies and the rest of his works are explicably terrible
The fact The Favourite or Roma didn't win makes me sad but it doesn't surprise me at all.
I always thought it was between this, klansman, and panther and given the large childish reaction over the other two losing by not only Spike but outrage twitter I’m glad it was Green Book.
Green Book shouldn't have won, but it was a better choice than the movie directed by a pedo.
Imagine losing to Driving Miss Daisy again 30 years later.
Which movie was that?
probably do the right thing which was a great film
Bohemian Rhapsody, I think. Brian Singer has raped and assaulted many boys.
why does Spike Lee find everything racist that isn't made by black people.
he thinks Django is definitely racist, now he thinks because it's a white guy driving a black guy it must be racist.
because a majority of his films are based on race and he thinks he's an expert on it
25th Hour was a great movie not based on race.
but I don't think he'll ever return to that side of movie-making again after that speech.
I read some of the articles on The Green Book and it's a pretty controversial movie for a few reasons, not only because it's another one of those sanitized "White Savior" type of movies designed to make specifically white people feel good about race relations, but because the "based on a true story" is complete bullshit, the two main characters of the movie were never friends and only had a professional relationship for a very short time before the driver was fired, and the fucking director had to outright apologize to Donald Shirley's family about how fucking wrong his portrayal of him was.
I'm pretty sure if it was any other movie Spike Lee would not have reacted that way.
BlacKkKlansman was a good movie, but a bit weird. there's something about it that i sort of.. disliked? it's a technically very competent movie and it is a good film but i felt like it was VERY TRANSPARENTLY obvious that it was a commentary on today's affairs. i know that's not a bad thing but i kinda.. disliked it for that reason?
Of all things.... Green Book? Really?
I'd be pissed off too.
I mean who can really imagine a black man in 2019 making a movie about modern day race relations as a part of a larger euphemism?
Idk man, I think making movies that touch on how difficult modern times still are is a totally worthwhile effort for film makers, or creatives of any type, to take on.
the oscars are a joke. Bohemian Rhapsody won best a best film editing while having a scene like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ1C6QYAWnk
dude that's why i'm confused myself. why tf am i thinking like this. this shit gnawed at me during the movie for no apparent reason
The oscars have been pandering since the 50s, so no real surprise there.
Lee is correct in his assessment, and I don't think there's anything really different about this than any of his other reactions. He's been this way for thirty years, why him being 'FURIOUS' [click here to find out how furious and retweet and like it so we can sell more erectile dysfunction drugs] in this literally foreseeable instance isn't anything worth even commenting on, much less drumming up a story over.
Hollywood is also pretty much the last place to headline and highlight fairness and equality of ANY kind, and hasn't been since the freaking 20's
Most of the other picks were equally braindead and clique-bait as well, so...
tldr: Angry man still angry, Money-based clique still insular and hypocritical. Click here to find out why.
the reason why spike lee is pissed is that Green Book addresses the unique racism within the black community when it concerns a dude mainly serving the rich white masses rather than the race.
the resulting ostrasization is something sorely missing in discussion with racism movies.
spike lee is militant and he is offended by a lone jazz musician who was shunned by both whites and blacks in social terms and hailed in music circles.
it conveys his loneliness in this world and is actually very depressing as a result.
viggo, is not the white saviour that you normally get but rather a buddy doing his job. he was also racially attacked in the movie so he's very far from portraying the saviour.
that's why the movie winning best picture wasn't all that surprising.
Hmm maybe the fact that it didn't fucking happen has something to do with it
i don't see any reason to be confused by spike lee irking you, he's been like this since the 80s.
that being said, his movies are still good.. some of the time
I had a similar feeling after watching it. A few parallels the movie drew felt a bit too on the nose to me, and more importantly during these points the exchanges between characters no longer felt natural.
At the end I still quite liked the movie overall, but I think serious and timely messages could be conveyed just as well with a bit more nuance. Let the viewer connect some dots too.
I think his point was it's way past the time of "Connecting the dots". I think, and I can only speak as an interpreter of the message here, Spike Lee was making the case that since the events of the story in question, times have changed, but not nearly as much as we think they have. It's easy to sit and go "yeah it's so much better" but there are so many elements of modernity and the racial struggle that has always existed in the US, that have gotten worse since that time frame in small but important ways. I think he did that to make people aware that 40 years later, we're still in the same place by and large.
this is all true and spike lee is spoiling it by shrouding his own great films with his militant approach of this.
he is so offended by green book, not because it isn't as good a film which is what normally would happen but by solely what it stands for.
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