Rotten Tomatoes disables comment section prior to a film's release
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https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/article/making-some-changes/
The title was too long, but this was because of mass downflagging of Disney's Marvel's Captain Marvel film.
I don't understand why people dislike Captain Marvel so much. It's no different than any other Marvel movie.
wait are people legit pissed about captain marvel because of a female lead? Are these people not marvel fans, because they do know that it's based on an original comic, right?
It's because of this.
“About a year ago, I started paying attention to what my press days looked like and the critics reviewing movies, and noticed it appeared to be overwhelmingly white male. So, I spoke to Dr Stacy Smith at the USC Annenberg Inclusion Initiative, who put together a study to confirm that. Moving forward, I decided to make sure my press days were more inclusive. After speaking with you, the film critic Valerie Complex and a few other women of colour, it sounded like across the board they weren’t getting the same opportunities as others. When I talked to the facilities that weren’t providing it, they all had different excuses.’”
so basically it's the people who whine about "femoid ess jay double us" like lolkork brought up
Because aside from one preview super wooden android with no firmware upgrades used for protagonist.
uh what
All of this is making me nervous about Captain Marvel to the point where I don't think I'm actually going to see it unless it gets bombastic reviews. I was the same way with Black Panther and Wonder Woman, although those films were actually good, probably two of the best superhero movies in recent times if I'm going to be completely honest.
And for the record: Me and my dad tend to look at all the Marvel movies. However if a film is shit then it's shit, and the amount they are trying to pump into PR and spin isn't a good sign that the movie is going to be good.
Why are people saying this before the film is even out
tfw people want this movie to fail cause the protagonist is female.
What the fuck happened in the span of 2-3 decades that made people think a female lead makes these movies shit? Cause most of the best sci fi movies of all time have female leads. Why is it all of a sudden not a good thing to have a female lead or thinking having a female lead means a movie will be shit?
The Fuck happened?
"Muh SJWs"
Literally the only reason for it, we can't have a female lead without it being the work of those damn feminists any more. Doesn't matter that CM has always been a woman and the MCU has plenty of male leads.
I mean, I dont think its just because it has a female lead.
Brie Larson has some heavily left-leaning political views that she doesnt hesitate to share.
I think it's not completely surprising for people heavily leaning to the other side of the spectrum to boycott/take down a movie that is has someone with such obvious political motivation as the lead.
Its childish of course, but I think the same would happen if the politics were reversed and someone very open about mildly pro-male/pro-white opinions was the star of a marvel movie.
In addition, there are plenty of people who want movies to succeed just because they have female leads.
So people on the other side (childishly) want the same movie to fail just to spite then.
Chris Evans criticizes Trump pretty frequently. That's pretty left leaning.
Considering James Gunn's outspoken views are what got Cernovich digging up his old tweets to get him fired, this isn't surprising to me at all.
I dunno, I'm pretty sure you can safely assume that 90% of the actors in Hollywood aren't fans of Trump.
I think mostly what she has said that is "controversial" is wanting less white men writing about and reviewing movies.
Again, I dont actually give a shit about this, but I dont think that this negative press is just 100% misogynists hating women.
Mostly I think its right-wingers angry that someone who talked bad about white men is the lead of a major movie release.
Still emberassing, just not all in the same way.
“What I’m looking for is to bring more seats up to the table. No one is getting their chair taken away. There’s not less seats at the table, there’s just more seats at the table.”
This seems like "more non-whites and women" than "less white men" though? As the quote clearly states, nobody is getting stopped from reviewing. The only thing that would be happening is more people who aren't white men get a chance to review as well.
This is not why most people don't like the movie and I hate that narrative getting thrown around whenever a movie with a female lead does poorly. Ghostbusters 2016 wasn't hated because it had a female cast, Disney starwars isn't disliked because of a female cast, it's because they are not good movies and/or poor character writing.
Wonder Woman (for the most part) was a good movie with a developed female lead. While there are always those who complain about nonsense, the movie did not receive a lot backlash because it had a female lead. You also gave the great example of Mad Max: Fury Road which was just 3 or 4 years ago.
What the fuck happened in the span of 2-3 decades that made people think a female lead/major female character makes these movies shit?
Most people don't think this, marketing executives like to find a few tweets that support this and blame that narrative instead of admitting their movie is doing poorly for other reasons.
Why is it all of a sudden not a good thing to have a female lead or thinking having a female lead/major female character means a movie will be shit?
There are definitely people who "want this movie to fail cause the protagonist is female", but the news likes to stir of controversy for clicks and it gets many people to go "well I'll just go and watch the movie again to show those misogynists"
What a lot of people react to are things like Brie Larsen who said things last summer like "male movie reviewers should shut up about “A Wrinkle in Time” because it wasn’t made for them.", or there should be less white men reviewers, or when the cast of Ghostbuster tried to say that people who hate Ghostbusters are just "trolls who need to get out of their mother's basement", they don't take into account that maybe it's just a bad movie. People will give a worse review if their views are just dismissed as 'trolls'.
I haven't seen Captain Marvel and I probably will at some point, but the movie is probably just a mediocre Marvel Movie but when they try to parade it as the quintessential Woman Superhero Movie and disregard criticism as "trolls", people are going to click that "not interested in watching" button on Rotten Tomatoes.
I heard different about it.
The videos on youtube I see are mostly about the lead saying white males need not to see the movie, and most people just say the movie is gonna be shit because the main character is dull and has no likeable traits other than being strong af.
Is it right or wrong? Have no idea, but would like to know.
i want armond white to review it
Rotten Tomatoes disables comment section prior to a film's release
It's a little ridiculous this wasn't always the case, considering this is mostly a review site.
I was just thinking we need some kind of browser extension to detect and remove low effort posting.
Low effort comments are everywhere nowadays and I can't tell anymore if people are legitimately retarded, just trolling, or part of some russian social-influence campaign.
you're missing the point
the point is that because we live in a patriarchal society, whether we want to admit it or not, sexism in the industry and not taking women seriously is a legitimate issue humanity has had for centuries before now
civil rights for women is only a recent thing from the last hundred years of societal progress, we aren't at full equality yet, and probably never will be
pretending that it's not an issue because it's inconvenient and trying to deny the problem entirely is just unacceptable
There's plenty of alt-right twats who are retroactively complaining about Ripley in the Alien franchise.
Your tinfoil fedora is on too tight.
Oh are we doing that again?
Why doesn't every movie just have 1 lead from every ethnicity, and then use the same story that gets them all equal representation in their respective strengths. That way no one can be offended. And every story told from now on will be identical
How so? I'm not denying there are are plenty of people out there that are going to hate this movie just because it has a female lead.
The issue I'm pointing out is when Sony says things like the only reason Ghostbusters 2016 did bad because people don't like woman leads and deny the fact that it just wasn't a good movie.
Do you think that Ghostbusters 2016 and Captain Marvel are great movies and they are just getting bad reviews because most people don't like woman leads?
I think my biggest gripe about the Captain Marvel movie isn't the gender, or the actor. It's just...
I feel like it would just be too generic.
So you think it's probably gonna be a bad movie based on nothing? They did this amount of PR for literally every film after Iron Man 1? Like, do people who want to be outraged or even just annoyed just
concoct their own fantasies?
Who's raging? I think it's a good thing that Rotten Tomatoes is disabling pre-movie comments because people use petty politics to blast a movie before it is out.
My comment was directed towards Death-Trooper who was saying that most people don't like the movie because it has a female lead.
I said there were plenty of great reviewed movies in the past few years with female leads, but studios use outrage to claim that their movie did poorly on reviews because of racism or misogyny when it's often because the writing or acting is bad.
I mean the movie hasn't come out yet, or been reviewed yet, so your argument that this is only a PR spin that's essentially fabricating outrage isn't correct in this case
Idiots are generally making noise about the fact Brie Larson did what she did around the press junkets, and it's just dumb outrage culture that's given more legs by the coverage of it. It'd probably exist either way though.
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