• Majority of Americans now accept Climate Change, support Carbon Tax
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>While partisan difference persists – 86 percent of Democrats and 52 percent of Republicans believe climate change is real – it has become a majority opinion across party lines, said Lindsay Iversen, deputy director at EPIC. The poll results showed not only increasing support for the science of climate change but also a general willingness to take action on it. Forty-four percent of participants said they support the implementation of a tax on carbon-based fuels. “The fact that people are willing to support a carbon tax on all of their income and across a number of different realms, not just in the narrow application with their electricity bill, I think that’s suggesting an openness to a bigger picture policy,” Iversen said. >Energy Innovation and Carbon Dividend Act In fact, the poll suggests that right now might be the prime time to roll out climate change policies. As many as 83 percent of Americans who believe in climate change said the federal government should take actions to address it, with 96 percent of Democrats and 76 percent of Republicans, the poll shows. https://news.medill.northwestern.edu/chicago/majority-of-americans-now-accept-climate-change-support-carbon-tax/ Carbon Tax with the revenue going straight to people's pockets would be a good start. Planet Money did an episode that showed that this would be a very easy place to start. Though not enough, and certainly not enough without getting China to do something about it too.
That polar vortex really woke people up.
Not to mention, if last Summer was as bad as it is, I dread to imagine how it will get worse.
If they don’t accept it now they’ll accept it when they’re starving and their homes are wiped away by continuous natural disasters.
The snow storms in Arizona also show that it's not going to only just get hotter.
As long as the carbon tax is applied to the industrial sources that make up the vast majority of carbon emissions instead of being used to make poor people poorer, I'm all for it.
Only 52% of GOP voters believe in climate change. Imagine denying factual science just because the left like it, what the actual fuck.
Anything to spite the libs...
well rush limbaugh did make the joke about cow farts and then followed it up with a very authoratative sounding statement claiming he knows better than anyone else ever nah nah nah
We nearly had a carbon tax in Australia. We were so close. Then Tony Abbott happened...
Honestly that is probably much higher than a decade ago, though. Progress?
Let's be clear hear, it's much worse than that. The reason many of them are so easily able to deny established science is because their religious beliefs already mandate them to. Remember. the most reliable GOP voting demographic other than racists is people who believe the earth is only 6000 years old, the entire universe was just created in six days, and not long after a worldwide flood devastated everything other than 8 humans and a bunch of animals on a boat. Unsurprisingly, many of these same people are buying into the anti-vaccination shit in addition to denying climate change. Dismissing entire branches of science comes more naturally to them then any demographic, because they have been taught from birth that they are the chosen people of god and everyone else is in league with the devil.
Slowly we climb back to sanity.
Too late. It's like finally accepting gravity exists when a boulder has crushed your fucking skull wide open.
Thank fuck i wasn't the only one to realize that this Winter was unusually cold and stormy as fuck.
The plan would be to use the revenue and literally just give everyone a check every year. I don't know how progressive it is, but I'm sure any costs from the tax poor people would spend they would get back much more from the government.
But the minority that doesn't believe in climate change is disproportionately represented in congress/EC/Senate
This is how this poll went: "Hello, we're taking a poll on climate change, could you answer some questions?" [people who support carbon tax] "Sure!" [people who don't believe in climate change] *hang up* This is why polls are generally pretty unreliable, regardless of location or sample size. The very act of asking a question will bias your recepient pool Source: I work with Quinnipiac University Polls
So is everyone browning their pants because both nations are armed with nukes?
It's not that their religious beliefs make them dumb, they blindly accept religious parable as fact because they are already incapable of critical thinking. Most religious people practice without taking everything literally, nor do they hold bigoted views towards others due to their beliefs. The people who think that the world is 6,000 years old, who deny climate change, who think that homosexuality is a form of Satanism, who blindly vote against their own interests because they prefer (R) over anything else, are the exception - a very large exception, but they are still not normal. All of these things go hand-in-hand for a reason, too. They just lack higher thinking for some reason, whether it's a cognitive defect or a product of their diet and lifestyle or otherwise. The most dangerous consequence of having no critical thinking skills, of course, is that they are just helplessly controlled through fear. This is how ignorance spreads. If they just don't think of a scary problem, if they bury it, then what they can't see can't hurt them. Until it does, and then they just look around to something to save them, which is usually a strongman spouting simple catch-all solutions to complex problems. Solutions that are nonsense and used to fool these poor souls into signing their rights away for snake oil. But hey, if some of them are starting to believe the evidence of their own eyes, then it stands to reason that they do come around to facts eventually.
In an ideal world you'd be right. But we are talking about post trutu America, and I dont trust the government to cut checks at all, much less checks sufficient to offset the effects of a gasoline tax on people who cannot afford to replace their car. And if they do I expect there to be work requirements attached.
Indeed. That is why evangelicals don't want their kids to go to secular colleges or allow christian colleges to so much as infer that believing in evolution is okay. Because the moment fundamentalist kids start thinking for themselves, most of them ditch their former beliefs within their first semester.
But guys coal jobs
well this would be enshrined in the law that is proposed in the OP.
Yaeh and I have about as much faith in the law making it onto the books unaltered as I do in an all-powerful all-knowing sky daddy. You and I both know the GOP would totally skullfuck it before it had a snowball's in hell of passing and getting signed into law. It would be nice to not be pushed into bankruptcy by a carbon tax, but we both know that's the end result for millions of people just like me if such a tax passes in the current government. Major emitters like coal power plants and heavy oil burning cargo ships get fuck all penalty while average joes like me who barely scrape by as-is are pushed into abject poverty by gas prices skyrocketing all over again.
Will we reach the top in time though? Or will the weight of others make us lose our grip?
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