Beto O'Rourke to announce decision on 2020 presidential run - Polidicks

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna977541 Beto O'Rourke has made up his mind about a 2020 presidential run and said Wednesday that he will announce his intentions soon, further increasing anticipation that one of the most buzzed-about candidates in the already crowded Democratic field may finally be ready to formally join the race.

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For Fuck's Sake.

Please no. We have enough fucking candidates already. If he wanted to run, he should have made his decision WAY earlier.

I can see a Sanders/O'Rourke ticket doing pretty well, but I doubt O'Rourke would stand much of a chance on his own.

Voting Beta is just democrats voting Republican without the guilt

O'Rourke didn't run on Sander's platform, he's a Neoliberal as well but he was far more left than the candidate he ran against so it was considered a big deal.

The last time we had a democratic Texan VP, he was also a relatively more conservative politician in an attempt to appeal to the conservatives in the south. To a large degree, it worked, and JFK took a lot of the south. I doubt something like that would work out as well today, but it's something to be considered.

Please don't. You'll spoil votes that could go towards a good candidate.

"I couldnt beat Ted Cruz, surely I can beat Trump!"

It’s really silly how this guy failed a race against one of the worst, most beatable senators but is still catapulted to a national race solely because the media can’t stop sucking him off. That being said I think it would be entertaining to see him run and he would split the centrist vote, so have at it buddy. People aren’t gonna be fooled by another smooth talker.

It's Texas. Conservative Texans fucking love Ted Cruz. Texas is a historically solid red state.

Texas is getting more purple. Ted’s approval rating was terrible and anecdotally a friend of mine who lives in Texas said most people hate Cruz and were basically only voting for the “R”.

Do y'all not understand the point of primaries or what

That's why he got the coverage because from 2012 to 2016 Texas shifted 7 points for POTUS, and shifted 7 more from 2016 POTUS to 2018 Senate, the media loves an underdog, loves a centrist, and loves a good speaker

Do you not understand how having so many candidates in the primaries makes it much much easier for an absolute cumstain to squeak through into the general that otherwise should never even get the chance to daydream about it? There's a finite amount of votes to spread and the more people we have in the race the more likely that the (D) contender in November 2020 got there with something like 20 or 30 percent of the primary vote. And that makes it far too likely for us to get another Trump term than I'm comfortable with.

I hate this slimeball. He takes big-oil lobbying money and is completely 100% right wing in every aspect besides immigration.

Cool. He'll make a great Vice President for Bernie.

Rents out an arena, tens of thousands show up, live broadcast on all networks "My fellow Americans I have decided not to run, goodnight and God bless"

Eek, no. I'd much rather see him run for senate again, against John Cornyn.

Bernie wouldn't pick him.

Beto only lost because he publicly supported an AWB. That's it. Until that became common knowledge, everyone I know, period, was behind him.

To be clear, I'm a Bernie/Warren supporter first and foremost. But I think it's only fair to analyze pros of every candidate. In terms of the moderate isle, I prefer O'Rourke over Biden or Klobuchar. When it comes to BETO, simply put I don't really see another candidate out there with the same level of electability. Beto would put both the purple Sun Belt states (AZ, FL, NC, even TX looking at the latest polls) and the Midwest (WI, MI, PA, and less likely IA, OH) in play in a general. As I see it, the top 5 candidates will be Bernie, Warren, Biden, Kamala, and potentially Beto if he reaches some of his earlier polls. Kamala: Good in the Sun Belt, weak in the Midwest. Bernie / Warren: Good in the Midwest, weak in the Sun Belt. Biden: Good in the Midwest, neutral in the Sun Belt. Beto: Good in the Midwest, Good in the Sun Belt. Two important notes. (1) The Midwest is #1 most critical area to win back. (2) Being the most electable is nice, but if a candidate closer to you like Bernie can win the Midwest then winning a state like AZ isn't imperative.

This wouldn't be as much of an issue if dumbfuck voters didn't get butthurt that their primary choice didn't get elected and then go "I'M NOT GONNA VOTE FOR THAT FUCKHEAD" when someone, albeit shittier than their first pick, is up against goddamn Donald Trump. Of course we want the best person in the primaries to win, but I think a big problem in 2016 was too many people saying "Hillary isn't good ENOUGH" and just not voting, and look what happened I'm no fan of Hillary Clinton but I think she wouldn't have been quite as much of a dumpster fire as Trump is. Depressingly enough choosing the lesser evil seems to the name of the game in politics

Mmhm. Politics in general is a depressing sea of 'vote for damage control' more or less. It's less a case of 'CAndidate T is more likely than CAndidate X to push America into a golden age' and more case of 'Candidate T is less likely to push us back to the fucking stone age'. And now we've got concrete evidence that social media makes it night impossible for your average retard to figure out which candidate is the lesser of two evils...I mean, I agree that a significant portion of Clinton's loss in 2016 was as you laid out, but a lot of it was also the Facebook Effect making it seem like Orange in Chief was going to do what his slogan claimed. ....this is all why I was totally uninvolved in politics before Trump and will likely return to that after Trump.

Not all states have primaries. In fact, the first state to go in the 'primary' season has a caucus instead.

That doesn't change the fact that the national-scale primary is FPTP, so the spoiler effect is in full swing. Local primaries only make that effect even worse.