• US urges UK to embrace chlorinated chicken
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47426138
Please lower your health safety standards for us, we aren't making all the money yet.
Oh and why don't you buy some of these neonicotinoids while you're at it?
Real talk if we let the US flood the market with their garbage nightmare meat I'd genuinely consider become a vegetarian.
Wait... we chlorine wash our chicken...?
We do a lot of weird shit. IIRC, we either used too or still do X-Rays to deal with microbial growth.
We encase tomatoes in gasses in the winter to make them ripe faster. Picked in the south while still green, gassed up and by time they reach the north the produce is ripe red. Always wash your food before you eat it!
Today I fucking learned. I feel kinda sick knowing this.
You can keep your god damn cheese too.
Cutting corners where ever possible to save on production costs.
say that again and we'll load up our bombers full of it, You've seen what we did to dresden! we're crazy!
Don't wash raw meat though, tap water won't do anything except spread bacteria all around your sink.
Because food companies cut corners and use shitty tactics to try and lower costs as much as they can to get as much profit as they can, and fool the population into thinking nothing's wrong because consumers can only observe the taste and price of the meat they buy. It's not like there's a big government-mandated sign on every package of chicken saying FED WITH ANTIBIOTICS AND CHEMICAL STIMULANTS AND THEN SHOWERED IN EVEN MORE CHEMICALS TO MAKE IT LAST LONGER ON STORE SHELVES.
not nescisarily. We wash and refrigerate our eggs while europe doesn't but both have merits in preventing disease its just two schools of thought.
one day i'll probably wake up to see a headline that says "US urges x country/ies to embrace gutter oil". And at the rate things are going, this might actually become a thing in another decade. This insanity has to stop. one way or the other it has to stop. who gives a shit about resentment any more, only truth matters
this thread has gotten a bit sensational. The EU argues that chlorine washes could increase the risk of bacterial-based diseases such as salmonella on the grounds that dirty abattoirs with sloppy standards would rely on it as a decontaminant rather than making sure their basic hygiene protocols were up to scratch. There are also concerns that such "washes" would be used by less scrupulous meat processing plants to increase the shelf-life of meat, making it appear fresher than it really is. its not that the chicken or beef are somehow toxic its that in the US its possible a meat packer might be over reliant on the wash to decontaminate the meat instead of following through on further steps, that doesn't really mean we are doing that though or nessicarily that that would even be allowed in the US either.
I'm glad to live in a country where food quality is taken at least somewhat seriously... No way the US would get away with pressuring us to do this shit. I feel ya UK folks, you already have a hard time making good food when you want to, now the US tries to use Brexit to make matters even worse.
This difference is why Europeans can eat raw cookie dough but Americans are told not to because of disease. The European process is more thorough, the American process relies on the consumer to cook his eggs before consumption.
well we can't use any regulation at all because all regulation distorts the market and hurts muh small business owners. Imagine trying to start a business, and not being able to afford the initial investment cost needed to maintain basic standards, yeah? That's why we need to let the rich do whatever they want.
Because they obviously don't give a shit about the people that eat it.
I mean tbh I’ve found the meat selection at my girlfriend’s local grocery store massively better than what you find here in Denmark. Where the US is most lacking is their inability to produce bread that isn’t just cardboard. Not that the US nightmare meat doesn’t exist, but I feel like produce in the US both soars high and goes down reaaaaaal low.
We do actually produce good bread, it's just either expensive or you have to go explicitly to a bakery to get it. The cheap bread is... well honestly practically not bread.
I have no idea why we would ship meat that far across the world. It's just adding to its already high carbon footprint, nevermind the lack of standards.
Downing Street's response: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47418505
If we're talking about meat or produce, that actually seems way safer than chlorine-washing meat. That's just disgusting.
Also should be pointed out its not just how they wash and prepare chickens. President of the UK's National Farmer's Union (NFU) Minette Batters said that "The difference is welfare standards and environmental protection standards," she told BBC Radio 4's Today programme. "Our consumer has demanded high standards of animal welfare, we've risen to that challenge - he's right to make the point that food security is crucially important, we would say the same - but all we're saying is: 'Produce the food to our standards and we'll have a trade deal.'" Ms Batters said chicken farms in the US were not required, for example, to include windows in their sheds or clean out in between flocks. Also just to note: the NFU has a lot of weight behind it.
Well, I'm sure American bakeries know how to bake - but the bread selection in grocery stores has just been appalling at the places I've gone to.
Yeah I don't doubt that, though it does depend on where you go. I've never seen decent bread at Walmart for example, but the biggest chain grocery around where I am - Kroger - does usually have a small section in the bread aisle for high grain breads that are actually worth buying. I haven't been into any others like Food Lion or Publix in ages though, at least not in the US.
A lot of stores also have an in-house bakery you can get bread from, but if you're just buying it off the shelf then it's overly soft and overly sweet product, I only use it for toast/toasted cheese if I have it.
A lot of our cheap food is practically or literally not the food it's listed as.
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