All Honda European sales to be electrified by 2025 - Sensationalist Headlines

Honda had a big announcement at the Geneva Auto Show today, the Japanese automaker said that it is committing to a “total electrification in Europe by 2025′. But what does it mean exactly? Tom Gardner, Senior Vice President of Honda Motor Europe, said during the announcement: “…since we made that first pledge in March 2017, the shift towards electrification has gathered pace considerably. Environmental challenges continue to drive demand for cleaner mobility. Technology marches on unrelenting and people are starting to shift their view of the car itself.” What Honda commit to is to exactly “move 100 per cent of its European sales to electrified powertrains by 2025.” https://electrek.co/2019/03/05/honda-total-electrification-europe-2025/

Damn that's such a slick looking hatchback. If only the US sales were all electric as well.

A few differences on that Honda there, just to make it a little more normal and less "fUtUrIsTiC", and I'd take it in a heart beat

A bit misleading, according to the article this includes hybrids as well.

Yes "electrified" includes anything with an electrified drive train, not just BEVs. It would be better if it was 100% BEVs but it's a good step in the right direction.

kinda funny, honda's hybrids are a joke, the new CR-V hybrid has the worst gas milage of all of them, at 7.7l/100km, and they're not even really fast or strong pulling, I was kinda disappointed admittedly.

They did that already: https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/132704/3215aaea-c8aa-47bc-9bbc-d19f1cfe60f1/dims.jpg This one is closer to the production model.

Eh I liked the one in the OP better. It's trying too hard to be futuristic, but this one just looks like a cheap knockoff of the one above.

Something about that still doesn't quite rubs me the right way... But its growing on me fast.

idk, personally i'm fine with a car that actually looks different

Why cant it have regular mirrors?

Acc to the designer, having 0 mirrors increases the aerodynamics a good chunk, which is extremely important for EV type vehicles. Also the video mirrors are actually shorter than the body, so you can't possibly take out the mirror before hitting something.

Video mirrors are a mistake. Simple glass mirrors are just that. Simple. Don't have to worry about them randomly shitting the bed, getting dirt on the lense, and you can judge distances. With no mirror and no way to judge distances these things are gonna have huge blindspots.

Cameras are pretty robust and small now in days. We already use back up cameras, and they are also becoming the standard, because mirrors are not 100% accurate and you still have to deal with physical blindspots of the cabin. Mirrors get dirt or mud on the glass too? the lenses aren't exposed to the elements, they have a glass bubble around them and are kept sealed. You telling me you can't judge distance with 2D screens? Mirrors reflect their image on a 2D plane, just like a camera shows an image on a 2D plane. Considering we have sensors packed on all vehicles as a standard already, it wouldn't be hard to put in a passing sensor and relay it to the camera. We already do this with backup cameras, and a lot of cars now have side sensors to detect if they are getting too close to a neighboring car. Except not really, Cameras can have higher FOVs that mirrors could never achieve without distorting the shit out of the image. I can tell distance on a screen, I do it every day with a back up camera. Combine that with sensors and you have a pretty seal tight system for area awareness. The only blindspots would be the same ones a mirror would have. Again, the main focus of removing the mirrors was to increase efficiency by reducing drag as much as possible, and the cameras can dim themselves if someone is blinding you with their high beams.

You can't argue about mirrors. There's a reason mirrors have been on cars since the beginning. If camera mirrors we're a good idea we could have had them around the same time backup camera were becoming standard. And no, you can't judge distance with a camera and screen. You literally can't. I don't care how you think you can, you can't. I rather have a quick glance at the mirror to see what's around and behind me, because I can naturally pick up the distances things are.

The video mirrors will be gone regardless in the production version as I'm pretty sure that they are illegal for passenger cars in almost every country in the world.

Of course you can. What are you on about. By that logic, nobody would be able to judge distances in any video game, and people with one eye wouldn't be able to either. This is of course completely untrue. You seem to forget that our visual system has MANY methods of judging distance. Binocular vision is only one of them. Other than that there's things like parallax movement and the simple memorized size of objects.