• John Wayne’s son defended his dad on CNN after a 1971 racist interview resurface
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https://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/article227087484.html
John Wayne was a real bastard
"Taken out of context" http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/owf75x6oop51zjg/johnwayne1.jpg
shut the fuck up Marion
To be fair to the old fuck, he was born in an era when homosexuality was a mental disease and homosexual acts were criminal. 1971 was not far from the days of homosexuality being flatly criminal; the Stonewall riots were in 1969. Telling Playboy you think Hollywood shouldn't be showing what was in very recent memory a nearly-criminal thing isn't... so unforgivable. I'd be supremely pissed of John Wayne survived to today and still told Playboy that in 2019 Hollywood is perverted for depicting gay men on-screen, but given the time, it's not the most outlandish thing. “But we can’t all of a sudden get down on our knees and turn everything over to the leadership of the blacks. I believe in white supremacy until the blacks are educated to a point of responsibility.” This, on the other hand, receives a gold medal in the 200m Yikes.
https://youtu.be/SoyusTUFdl0
john wayne also had to be physically restrained to be stopped from attacking a 14 year old native american girl at the 1973 oscars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeOWZLpVK58
You know, even if this is pretty racist and ignorant it's kinda sad that it somehow manages to be more respectful than modern republicans and their talking points. At least he acknowledges that he'd have no problem with kids learning about the basic core principles of communism in school, something I don't think modern republicans ever would be ok with, and he does acknowledge that black people have some good reasons for feeling upset over their situation in life. Again, it's not nice stuff he's saying but it does come of as more respectful compared to modern talking points by the same kind of people.
Wow someone in 1971 was racist? Why don't we just scrub from the books everyone born before our enlightened era?
I'm out of the loop here, why do we all of a sudden care what John Wayne has to say?
See but think of it like this, views like that were progressive as hell in like, the 1800's and early 1900's. If you think about it, John Wayne was born in the early 1900's, his view right there is progressive as shit considering the time. Doesn't make it right but his views, in context to his time period, are actually pretty progressive compared to the norm.
nobody is suggesting scrubbing john wayne from the books at all
she was actually 27 but it did indeed happen At the 45th Annual Academy Awards in 1973, Marlon Brando was awarded the Best Actor Oscar for his iconic role as Vito Corleone in The Godfather. However, Brando didn’t show up to accept the statue. Instead, he sent a Native American activist named Sacheen Littlefeather in his place to decline the award. Littlefeather stood behind the podium and, to a mixed reaction of boos and applause from the audience, explained why the movie star, at the height of his career, was rejecting the Academy’s most prestigious individual honor. In an interview with The Los Angeles Times earlier this month, she talked about another of the world’s biggest movie stars at the Oscars that night whom she said was none too pleased with her speech. “Oh, I got threats,” Littlefeather remembered. “They said, ‘Why did they send a woman to do a man’s job?’ [The people backstage] said they’d give me 60 seconds, or they’d arrest me. John Wayne was in the wings, ready to have me taken off stage. He had to be restrained by six security guards. Afterward people questioned my authenticity, they said I wasn’t even Indian.” https://youtu.be/2QUacU0I4yU https://womenintheworld.com/2016/02/27/43-years-later-native-american-activist-reflects-on-rejecting-marlon-brandos-oscar/
They are suggesting scrubbing his name from the airport that bears it.
I thought it was 0retty common knowledge john wayne was casually racist about everything.
Who is "they"? Also, yeah, lets not name an airport after a racist draft dodging cowboy actor.
That isn't really the books tho. Like he'll still have existed even without an airport named after him
There is literally nothing wrong with dodging the draft.
There is if you turn around and voice warhawk opinions like Trump or Ted Nugent, etc. Warhawk draft dodgers are scumbags. It's not that you dodged the draft, it's that you dodged the draft and then vocally scream about how justified the war you dodged is.
Right, but the issue isn't that they're a "draft dodger." If you're spitting out a list of reasons someone is bad, "draft dodger" on its own does not belong there.
https://youtu.be/rgIeru8ZD94?t=4
John Wayne was a great actor. Outside of that, he was a cowardly, racist shitbag.
In a vaccum, of course not. The problem is Wayne was a chickenhawk jingo who took a decidedly pro-war stance. He specifically made films during the Vietnam War as propaganda for the US military. Ducking out of World War 2 and then doing shit like that is pretty craven. I should have used more appropriate phrasing.
other than it being literally illegal and basically going AWOL
That's a pragmatic concern, not an ethical one.
How about "I support this war!" "Will you serve your country, then?" "lol no" ?
Right, but then the issue is supporting the war in the first place, not the draft dodging. There's no shame in preventing the government from forcing you to basically sit in a trench until you die. Refusing to learn from that and then trying to demand others go and do the same thing and die in a pointless war is wrong, but because of those reasons, not because you dodged a different draft.
If you dodge the draft because don't want to die for a war you don't support, that's fine. If you dodge the draft because you don't want to die but you're totally fine with anyone else being sent off to die and you even get paid to create propaganda encouraging people enlist to do what you refused to do, you're a cowardly shit who deserves to sit in shame while you enjoy the freedoms men braver than you fought to preserve. That's hypocrisy you can never rub off.
Right, and my point has only been that "draft dodger" is not a valid mark against someone else. Your core issue is that he is a warhawk. It's made worse by being a draft dodger, but "draft dodger" was standing solely alone as a negative mark in the post I was replying to, and the OP of that post already agreed with me and changed their post.
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