GOP resigned to Trump losing the 2020 popular vote but not the Electoral College
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/republicans-resigned-to-trump-losing-2020-popular-vote-but-confident-about-electoral-college
Senior Republicans are resigned to President Trump losing the popular vote in 2020, conceding the limits of the flamboyant incumbent’s political appeal and revealing just how central
the Electoral College has become to the party’s White House prospects.
“California, Illinois, and New York, make it very, very difficult for anybody on our side to ever again to win the popular vote,” said David Carney, a Republican strategist in New Hampshire.
Asked if he expects Trump to defy the odds next year, Carney said flatly, “No,” but added, “the president shouldn’t worry about it. Two hundred seventy — that’s what people remember.
“The popular vote is irrelevant because it’s not how our system works,” said Dan Eberhart, an energy executive and Republican donor in Arizona who supports Trump. “The president is
right to focus on voters in states with the biggest number of electoral votes.”
But the president’s team, planning for higher voter turnout in 2020 but privately bracing for a second popular vote defeat, is moving to build on 2016 by going on offense in Democratic-
trending battlegrounds that Trump lost to Clinton by surprisingly narrow margins.
Great, I knew this would happen. They have learned that a major of the country doesn't like them, and instead of going, huh, maybe we are wrong, lets fix that, its more, nah, lets just fucking keep doing the same and find loopholes in.
"Hey, Russia, if you're listening..."
reminder that despite taking the office three times Republicans have only won the popular vote once in the last 25 years
BuT tYrAnNy oF tHe MaJoriTy!
Nah don't worry GOP., we'll make you lose that too.
Abolish the electoral college NOW.
I swear to god, if it happens twice in a row...
Hopefully people learn from their mistakes of not voting or throwing away their vote. Hopefully they've learned that elections have consequences. We still have very shitty voting numbers.
Makes it easier for Democrats to know where to campaign, at least.
Trump needs very specific states to swing his way to win the Electoral College, and so if that is their blatant strategy to win, the Democratic nominee only need to focus most of their attention in those key states.
Really they only probably need to dislodge Trump support in Ohio and Pennsylvania in the broader view, which ought to be easy enough.
God fuck no i cant take 4 more years of this shit
I will never understand this argument. Is tyranny of the minority supposed to somehow be better?
It's not one or the other.
Shouldn't be but that is what we have now.
From what I remember the whole thing was created cause people are stupid, uninformed meatbags who vote with feeling instead of reason and logic which will allow tyrants and Robot Madcow Zombie Hitlers to take over the country just because they said they like puppies (and only evil people hate puppies). Sometimes however the people are right and justified in why they vote for the people they vote; then the system kicks in and allows the other guy (who is a blatantly racist, narcissistic, sociopath, pathological liar) to take power.
Basically a complex system of checks & balances were put in place so in the event of one party gaining control of most offices, they cannot function well without approval of the minority.
It's not designed for the minority to rule, it's not designed for the majority to rule.
It's suppose to be designed where the majority must have some consent from the minority to pass a law.
What has happened now is, the GOP when the minority have refused to give any consent even if they agree with the law for the mere fact that they are not the majority.
This is an exploit not because of legal loopholes, but because none of the founding fathers (and honestly, all the way from then to the 1990s) thought a minority would refuse consent on the mere premise of not being in control.
From 1776 to roughly the 1990s, whatever minority party in government would work with, albeit begrudgingly at times, with the majority party because "hey, at the end of the day we're all Americans".
Then Newt Gringrich happened to Congress and it's been a mudslide downward since.
They basically just said they dont care what the majority of the americans vote for, only thst they win. How undemocratic.
The Republican Party is anti-Republic. They should be renamed the Feudalist party, they seek to install themselves and their donators as a ruling class, with only personal loyalty to eachother, and none to country or people.
Can we please call this a Constitutional Crisis now?
A party is attempting to game the system and go against the wishes of the popular vote. That is not democracy, its GOP elitism.
I mean they had a bit of a squabble about this in the 1860s
he's probably not going to win Arizona again given how that's shifted since 2016, if he looses arizona then even taking wisconsin again isn't enough, and Pennsylvania has been seeing such a massive rebound since 2016 as well
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