Mueller did not find the Trump campaign conspired with Russia: attorney general
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Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III did not find that Donald Trump’s campaign or any of his associates conspired with Russia in its efforts to interfere in the 2016 election, according
to a summary of Mueller’s findings sent to lawmakers Sunday.
“The Special Counsel . . . did not draw a conclusion — one way or the other — as to whether the examined conduct constituted obstruction,” the Barr letter said.
“The Special Counsel states that ‘while this report does not conclude that \the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,” the letter said.
I'm glad I didn't get my hopes up, because I expected something like this would most likely be the outcome.
I think we need to have a serious conversation about hype culture on this forum and the internet in general.
I think we all expected this.
MAN I have the feeling social media is about to become absolutely unbearable with a conclusion like this
This is the AG's summary and conclusion, who is a Trump crony. Not the report its self
Mueller was not consulted for this summary.
This is Barr's spin on the report, wait until the actual report is published
Why's the headline say "did not find" when the content says "inconclusive"?
I think this is exactly as is seems. A man who became president has a questionable history but as a sitting president he has to recieve retro-active security just because he won. I think impeaching a president is way harder than busting him after 4 years and hoping to clean the mess
The public isn't getting the full report; only Congress.
Well, it's true that it did not find evidence of campaign collusion with Russia (according to Barr). Whether he obstructed justice was left inconclusive (according to Barr).
Was the Nuclear Smurfy just a weather balloon? More at 11
Swamp gas, probably
So basically Trump's henchmen are trying to spin the first impression of the release and we don't actually know what's in the report yet.
Yes. The current claims of the content of the report are basically useless without the report. I'd be surprised if they were outright lies but I'd bet there's plenty of leaving out details.
As expected. I actually wouldn't be surprised if they were outright lying. If they can capture enough mindshare with their misinformation before the actual report gets out, that'll significantly muddy public knowledge for days, possibly weeks.
Just wanna take a moment to showcase this complete fucking dullard.
https://twitter.com/KenDilanianNBC/status/1109904678987411456
As shady as Barr might be, he can’t get away with lying about the report so blatantly. The truth is the collusion charge was always shaky and hard to prove. People bought into the media firestorm because they think this is a movie and this is the part where the bad guy politician is brought down by the noble determined incorruptible cop. Real life doesn’t work like that. The surest way to get rid of Trump has always been at the polls in 2020. This whole act of theater has just been a waste of time in elitist liberal fantasy world and the meltdown over the next few weeks is gonna be something to behold. Trump’s crimes of tax fraud and obstruction of justice were always there.
I don't like the president any more than any of you but the AG's synopsis can't be that substantively different from the conclusions of the report itself without creating a massive, blindingly undeniable, avoidable and pointless scandal in itself. The report is going to be public one way or another, and its contents will have been transmitted to congressional committees before that. It wouldn't be worth the colossal shitstorm and political capital for nothing. There are other still larger battles left to fight, anyway.
I'm guessing the report just lays out all the events and evidence of what's happened, leaving it up to lawmakers to conclude whether it constitutes as criminal action.
However, since it does not explicitly say "...Trump committed (X) crime", Barr can throw shade by saying it didn't "conclude" anything.
You do realize these are Trump's men we are talking about?
Haha no, maybe you did, but I had some guy on here literally claiming that indictments on the grounds of tax issues unrelated to russia was irrefutable proof of a conspiracy
This is not a conclusion, they specifically did not conclude anything either way.
A common trick of the right is to be technically correct. The AG is probably correct about his statement, but he's very likely to be omitting other crucial details.
Now watch as the GOP try to argue that there's no reason to release the report to the public since it didn't "conclude" anything.
The thing is that if a criminal obtains the office and he's not removed by the constitutional solutions for criminal presidents, that puts an enormous dent in the rule of law in the United States and the country's
foundation.
no, really not.
that's easy to say after the report came out, but the way trump and co tried to obstruct and destroy the investigation by any means, threatening mueller and journalists for 2 years, was incredibly guilty looking. add to this how multiple trump associates were found guilty of various crimes, you can't blame anyone for thinking mueller had something even bigger.
This report is just about wether or not they commited conspiracy against the US, doesn't mean the campaign was clean and operated legaly.
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