The Burping Woman and Cultural Appropriation [PayMoneyWubby]
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https://youtu.be/jFjbBGLer3Q
sweet mother of fuck
just when you thought the rabbit hole couldn't get any deeper
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I have tears in my eyes from the woman burping at the groceries. It's just so fucking gross and absurd I love it.
I was getting sick and having an automatic gag reflex kick in.
It's a shame the second half of the video is him showing how uninformed he is about racism and general sociological terms.
I sorta agree, he says "what native American would be offended by someone wearing a headdress at Coachella" and then contradicts himself later in the video referencing "it's not white people's place to decide what others can use ". I think he's definitely misinformed about cultural appropriation, but I do partially agree with him re: ""reverse"" racism and the song dilemma.
Not going to say how? Just kind of wrote him off.
This part made me gag. How can be something so gross become such a turn on for people?
i've seen tons of gross shit people "like" but the thing i've seen that is most disturbingrecently is a video of a girl licking a toilet seat on an airplane.
I don't post too often in the video section about politics stuff, so I actually just assumed the general consensus would agree like in Polidicks.
First we have to start with the the term of Racism is fairly contentious and convoluted. Dictionaries have different definitions and often racists (at least, what most people would call them) attempt to skirt around them.
Oxford dictionary
Racism: Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
Merriam-Webster
Racism: A belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
My father, who regularly says shit like "White man medicine yet again helping the blacks" would be called a racist by anyone with a good head on them, however he denies calling himself a racist by quoting the Merriam-Webster definition, and saying that "The blacks are good at sports" ergo "Race isn't the primary determinant".
I personally dislike the term "reverse-racism" because it places special importance on white->black racism – and on simply that premise I would never support its use.
But honestly a lot of that is getting the cart before the horse, what we consider racism now is not only more wide (and IMHO, better), but trying to use a dictionary as prescriptive is a fucking death-knell of any argument.
So... a quick rundown of sociology terms: racism requires the power structure to project that racism (as discrimination). The argument is generally that, since white people are 60%* of the US population, they are inherently "the group with power to project". We also have to consider that white families have literally 10X the median net-worth of a black families†, and money is inherently power. You can see why, if you're using the sociology understanding of Racism, the idea of "Reverse-racism" in the US would be an absurd statement to the people in the video.
Sources:
*U.S. Census Bureau QuickFacts
†https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/notes/feds-notes/recent-trends-in-wealth-holding-by-race-and-ethnicity-evidence-from-the-survey-of-consumer-finances-accessible-20170927.htm#figure1
What should we call people who say discriminatory things but aren't actually racists? Like, I feel as if we should reserve the word 'racist' for someone who is actually deserving of the word otherwise it loses it severity as a descriptor? IDK. I'm not trying to defend anyone who says discriminatory shit or actual racists I just feel like the broad definition has allowed the word to lose some of its intensity in discussion. Unless someone can come up with a bit more bite I'll stick to calling people who discriminate bigots and asshats and save the word racist for someone who genuinely feels their race is superior.
What exactly do you call the sort of people that have a hate boner on white people and call them "white devils", then? They essentially act like racists and are bigoted towards people of a certain race.
Why are you abstracting racism to a nationwide level? Racism can occur within a majority white country against whites. Take the girl in the video with the Manson badge growing up in a majority latino/black neighborhood and being discriminated based on her race. What do you call that?
Purely by sociological terms, if there's a power structure to project prejudiced, then yeah that would be racism. Issue is that her family can likely afford the move OUT of a black-dominated area (which is a majority of places in America).
We can take cross-sections of populations and divvy these things up, and my posts here don't serve the purpose of bringing everyone up to a college-level understanding of these things.
Discrimination and bigotry certainly can, but any systemic racism can effectively be avoided by the vast majority of white people. This is a country that whites have 10X the median net-worth (AKA they can afford to move, go to private schools, etc), and a country that whites are straight up a higher percentage of the population. It also has majority white legislators.
South Africa is actually more interesting in this regard.
A big part of my post is trying to show there's a difference between common parlance of the term "Racism", and sociological terms. The woman in the video clearly has learned at least some sociology, and sees why a term like "Reverse-racism" would be absurd.
In normal conversation, I'd consider somebody who talks disparagingly about black people ("White medicine yet again helping black people") or white people ("Jews control all the money and that's why we must remove them") to be Racist. However you can't actually ascertain that these people fit the dictionary definition of a "Racist":
The guy in the video very clearly doesn't understand the nuance here, and that's what I was pointing out in my original post.
Racism and systemic racism are not the same thing. He said that racism can exist against a majority group and he's absolutely correct. If a black man in America hates white people, in general, he is a racist. It doesn't matter if he has legitimate grievances*, it doesn't matter if he has no power **, what matters is he holds an opinion of people based solely on their race.
The same goes for anyone of any race hating others of any other race (or even the same race) because of their race.
*I would argue that there are no legitimate grievances which can be held against an entire passive group. You can hate all Nazis or all British Imperialists because those are active groups people have to join, or at least can be talked out of if they were raised in them.
**Social power is an incredibly nebulous concept which is near impossible to quantify, is poorly understood, and more often than not misrepresented. Very few individuals have actionable social power, regardless of their race. Class and monetary value determine far more than race or religion. While in the West rich people tend to be white that doesn't mean white people, in general, have the same power as the rich.
Sorry about the long winded qualifiers, I just don't want to miscommunicate what I'm trying to say.
here's your mistake my dude
he, and everyone else, is talking about RACISM. the discrimination of peoples based off of the color of their skin and/or their heritage. you're talking about SYSTEMIC RACISM, that's an entirely different concept and problem.
This video would be a great weight-loss supplement for gluttons like me, because I lost my appetite for the entire fuckin day after that first belch. That's incredible. Can we get the thread back on rails please? We have a serious medical marvel on our hands with this girl's channel here.
God I thought that burping woman was the most hilarious and disgusting shit I've seen today but Glitchvid'd unhinged rambling sure proved me wrong.
Well in the context of social justic movements, Finish culture wouldn’t be appropriated because they are not an oppressed class of people.
Which is dumb, I’m Bengali and my family loves to see their culture shared as well.
Also, the statements in the video he's watching are really badly put together. "Cultural appropriation is real." Of course it's real, but what he's really asking is "Is cultural appropriation always bad?".
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