Pete Buttigieg: 2020 Democratic candidate surges to third place in new poll
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/25/pete-buttigieg-2020-democratic-candidate-surges-third-place-new-poll
Definitely seen a lot of talk about him lately
P.Butts is a really smart guy and I really hope he gets national focus.
If he can get centre stage he could be better than Bernie.
249 is a small sample size tbh. Pete is pretty fantastic and is in my top 3 picks.
I like booty judge.
Bernie is a flawed candidate, though I appreciate that he brought several issue to the national debate. I trust someone with experience outside of holding public office and its a plus to see that he is a veteran.
In what way?
Eh... Do you think you can find that quote for me? That doesn't seem like a thing he's say especially since his whole stick is to appeal to the lower-income bracket working Americans.
During the primary debates, he was asked a question to the effect of 'what racial blind spots do you have?' In reply he gave a couple examples of racism he'd seen, then said 'When you’re white, you don’t know what it’s like to be living in a ghetto. You don’t know what it’s like to be poor. You don’t know what it’s like to be hassled when you walk down the street or you get dragged out of a car'.
He then clarified with reporters the next day 'What I meant to say is when you talk about ghettos traditionally, what you’re talking about is African-American communities... I think many white people are not aware of the kinds of pressures and the kind of police oppression that sometimes takes place within the African-American community.'
He was talking about how white people generally don't know what life in the ghetto is like. He misspoke, that's all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6IlGoeDIUQ
He's not wrong though? White people don't really live in ghettos like other minorities do, and don't have the same experience as those minorities when it comes to everything from poverty to police interactions. He's not out of touch or flawed, quite the opposite actually to be speaking like that and understanding that his experience isn't the same as others.
They don't.
I'll give you the same response I gave to the other troll account:
Is he wrong? The vast majority of ghettos/slums in America are black neighborhoods. In a predominantly white nation, you don't know what it's like.
You can sympathize, rationalize, excuse, but you don't know what it's like.
Watch a white redneck gun-toting anarchist explain the concept so even you understand it in simple terminology
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD8mWq0Hdcw
not only is Bernie correct in this video but you 100% pulled your quote out of context and spun it
Additionally, Bernie does have have experiences outside of public office, as for much of that time he was a public activist fighting for peoples rights. It's not like he sat on his ass taking checks from the government, he was actually out there on the streets fighting for African American's rights and against the Vietnam War. It's only at the behest of his personal friends that he ran for Mayor of Burlington which started his political career, a very successful one where he reduced poverty, fought against rich corruption, and just in general improved the city of Burlington to the point it's rated as one of the best places to live in America. To say he did nothing and has no experience is just flat out stupid, and he may be a politician but he's one who has proven himself time and time again to be for the people he represents, not himself.
There is almost 3 times as many white people living in poverty in the US as there are Black people. So to make the comment that white people don't know what its like to be poor is out of touch.If its not that than its just ungenuine pandering to the uninformed.
https://poverty.ucdavis.edu/sites/main/files/imagecache/medium/main-images/2015_poverty_and_race.jpg
Living in poverty =/= living in a ghetto.
It's not the same though. My family is a part of that number of people, and our lives are nothing like what I've read and heard some of my black friends from inner city Milwaukee talk about. It's a number of different factors that cause this. I'd seriously suggest you go and read Evicted by Matthew Desmond. It's not about race at all but it provides insight on the differences between white and black poverty especially in an urban enviornment.
If you dont think white people live in ghettos, you are so far abstracted from reality.
A few may here an there, but the vast majority do not, and that's the point we're trying to get across.
But ghettos means a really specific thing when it comes to poor black neighborhoods in America, it's not just about poor neighborhoods in general. Not only did we establish that Bernie misspoke in the speech you were referring to but it's specifically how being a poor white family and a poor black family are not equivalent experiences at all the vast majority of the time.
As a dude who's been poor as fuck for the past 3 years and also a white dude.
I will still confirm what i've experienced is probably not the same level of the shit that happens in Ghettos. Cause one, being a white guy. I have a lot less societal roadblocks to dig myself out of my problem. Meanwhile the point of Ghettos is to keep it shit for the sake of keeping that minority at that level of poverty and social class.
Though many white people live in poverty, they don't endure the exact same experience as black people do. That's just a fact. It's unfortunate and it's not changing fast enough.
White people weren't limited to certain housing districts through predatory loaning practices that resegregated communities long after legal segregation had stopped. And that was only 50 years ago, so the effects on those communities are still only a generation down river, and thus they're not fixed what so ever.
There's a rich history of black people in america getting fucked over, and that's not really debatable at a fact based level.
And this is a huge issue i often see in these types of threads. Where people say white people being poor or getting screwed over in the US is "Racism". Except the US has a vast majority white population. You're not getting fucked over for being a "White Guy". You're getting fucked over cause the system itself is completely fucked for everyone.
Meanwhile. Still to this day in parts of the US and throughout its history, it has intentionally sabotaged African American Communities and kept them at the Poverty line to enforce the Status Quo. So that's actually telling how fucked the US is atm. Where the people who aren't even targeted for that shit, is also going poor and suffering.
That's not what he meant. You know that's not what he meant. Furthermore, if anything Bernie has been (wrongly) criticized as possibly being too focused on whites, so this (honestly brave, if a little imprecise) quote is probably good for his image overall in the Democratic party.
he's old, and had a problem driving minority turnout in 2016, that's about it.
I'd rather someone much younger then trump but bernie is up for the fight too
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