Justice Department says courts should strike down the entire Affordable Care Act - Polidicks

https://www.axios.com/justice-trump-court-affordable-care-act-unconstitutional-ab8bf281-65fc-4b91-8606-d1f3f65818d6.html The Justice Department now says the courts should strike down the entire Affordable Care Act — not just its protections for pre-existing conditions. The department signaled its new, broader position in a legal filing Monday, part of a lawsuit challenging the law's individual insurance mandate. A ruling striking down the entire ACA would upend major parts of the health care system. Millions of people would lose their health care coverage, and a host of seemingly unrelated policies — including new experiments in how Medicare pays for care and an entire class of prescription drugs — would also go out the window. A federal judge ruled in December that the ACA's individual mandate has become unconstitutional, because of the way Republicans zeroed out the penalty for being uninsured. At the time, the Justice Department had agreed that the mandate was unconstitutional, but said only 2 other provisions needed to go — the one requiring insurers to cover people with pre-existing conditions, and the one prohibiting them from charging those customers a higher premium. Now, though, the Justice Department says it agrees with the judge's entire o pinion, and won't challenge any part of that ruling as the case heads through the appeals process.

I fucking swear, is there a branch of the government that hasn't been compromised by corrupt assholes?

A rogue judge tries to take down the ACA and Trump tells Barr to say its okay, thanks you cunt. Hopefully it won't hold up in the supreme court by the time it gets their, but by then Ruth Ginsberg could be dead

fucking do it already then, this is why insurance companies don't remove that box about life time caps from their forms (that and probably another regulation). if trump gets a win here the gop is dead in 2020, the backlash will be so unimaginably severe. the fallout from such a massive change all at once would collapse our pathetic healthcare system and finally push us to a universal system at the expense of a few dozen millions of people and probably collapse the economy too if you were to pull all the government subsidies for healthcare from the ACA out from the economy

A federal judge ruled in December that the ACA's individual mandate has become unconstitutional, because of the way Republicans zeroed out the penalty for being uninsured. Republicans have been trying to sabotage this bill from the beginning.

TBH I don't think the GOP will stop until the rip out all of Medicare

I don't even know how zeroing out a penalty is equivalent legally to there being no penalty, its still there in statute they couldn't legally alter the ACA under the 2017 budget fuckery act, so they just set the fine to 0$ but its still legally in force

It's amazing people who try to argue against the pre-existing conditions rule always bring up car insurance, "You don't get in an accident then get to have car insurance", as if incidental one off incidents like breaking a bone are the only pre-existing conditions. Shit you were born with, chronic conditions you have no fucking control over will also not be covered. Get fucked if you have a mental illness or other chronic conditions you had 0 say in. These people also say that if you're young you can "afford to take risks with a healthy body, so you don't need insurance, it should be a choice." It's amazing how fucking detached from reality these people are. I'm lucky enough to be on medicaid, if I wasn't and this passed I'd have to pay for thousands of dollars of medications a month when I can barely afford groceries sometimes.

The fuck is unconstitutional about forbidding discrimination in a field as crucial as healthcare?

its not even stuff you were born with, they were stretching the definition so far that people with seasonal allergies were being considered high risk just to charge people more or deny them coverage if you had any health problem then lost your insurance you suddenly had a preexisting condition and were shut out of the market entirely

This should be one of the red lines which trigger a nationwide protest/rioting.

But it won’t, because they’ll just keep slowly sidling along and past the line and everyone will be too fatigued by the bullshit to do anything about it. People that are wage slave literally cannot afford to protest—if they can’t make income, they put their live in jeopardy. If they do protest and it doesn’t work, they’ll be worse off than ever. And you know what? I’m pretty sure it was all designed that way.

https://twitter.com/RepTimRyan/status/1110588010393796613?s=19

Pregnancy is considered a pre-existing condition, apparently.

You know what scares me about this? The 156 million Americans who get coverage through an employer, as well as the roughly 15 million enrolled in Obamacare and other plans in the individual insurance market, are protected from caps that insurers and employers used to limit how much they had to pay out in coverage each year or over a lifetime. Before the A.C.A., people with conditions like cancer or hemophilia that were very expensive to treat often faced enormous out-of-pocket costs once their medical bills reached these caps. While not all health coverage was capped, most companies had some sort of limit in place in 2009. A 2017 Brookings analysis estimated that 109 million people would face lifetime limits on their coverage without the health law, with some companies saying they would cover no more than $1 million in medical bills per employee. The vast majority of people never hit those limits, but some who did were forced into bankruptcy or went without treatment. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/26/health/obamacare-trump-health.html I'm fighting cancer right now and this could be a financial burden that is too much to bear for me if the ACA gets struck down.

If those paths are sealed off, then perhaps it's time people just started taking the things they need by force.

Eventually people won’t have anything left to lose. Guess where that will lead to?

If a government refuses to serve the common interests of its people, perhaps that government has no business being empowered by its people and deserves to be torn down and replaced?

how exactly are the people to take the healthcare industry by force?

Steal drugs from pharmacies, etc. Literally zero ethical problems in my book when people do that.

Robbing places usually requires terrifying the local staff operating the pharmacy. Those folks have almost nothing to do with the reason why people might be in a state of despair sufficient enough to steal from a pharmacy. Its also strategy that scales very poorly since sooner or later there would be a counter response if it was actually a threat to capital interests.

Do you have a better option? Because rolling over and taking it doesn't seem like a good option. Never underestimate desperate people, because desperate people take desperate actions.