• Hellboy Clip #3 "The Lovely Baba Yaga"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnjTUSZm8pk Holy fuck!
Continuity error, the way she tumbles she should land face down with her head away from the camera, but she lands in the opposite orientation, face up head towards the camera. Bad movie, will not see. /s
Really really looking forward to this. Plz be successful.
I respect the awesome make up and all, but I Ron Pearlman not playing Hellboy feels so wrong.
Del Toros Hellboy has very little in common with the source material, and Ron Perlmans version is good for DT Hellboy, but not a comic sourced Hellboy.
As someone who only knows Ron Perlman's Hellboy can you please tell me how was he different to the comics? And perhaps how this new one captures it better? I'm actually curious.
Fuck sake, that's a shame, guess that's a movie I'm seeing then. also /s
Comics Hellboy is more of a.....working class type of guy. This isn't a joke. He literally is just a dude who looks like he's from Hell. He's got a large right arm. He spends a lot of his time doing his best to avoid this prophecised world ending destiny thing that boils in the background for most of the comics. Which is where a lot of the humor in the Hellboy comic comes from. https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/223736/e1cb7750-5fc8-407d-8037-8e68773ca812/83bdf261ece3d4a77ccb2d23fdc71a63.png He's even treated like just another person in the comics by the people he's investigating for. https://i.gyazo.com/ce087158ef8aab2ba544d2a7aad9db81.png He is not preoccupied with notions of love or romance. He and Liz work together, but he doesn't have any sort of crush or anything on her. What makes Pearlman's Hellboy so....not Hellboy, are things like that. Also his 'preoccupation with keeping his horns ground because he wants to appear more human' is also hogwash. Nobody stares at his horns in the comic, and he keeps them short cause otherwise they'd just get in the way while he's working. Pearlman's Hellboy comes off to me as a fussy child.
Sometimes in order for a character to be kept alive another actor must take up the reigns. Ron was great in the role, maybe the best, but it's been years.
Wow, John Wick really let himself go
Ron Pearlman basically took hellboy as if no comics past the first four had been written, probably on purpose. He's very naive about the way shit works as if he just watched tv all the time and read books but never got to do shit in the real world, as if the BPRD was half containment field, half wonderland. Mignola's hellboy has seen it all and done it all as basically a marine seabee his whole life, his very long life. Joe Rogan is guy who's smart enough to know about ccertian things like martial arts and bow hunting and how to find the absurd in a haystack. He then knows a shit ton of people and expects them to learn him real good about the shit he doesn't know, almost to a fault. That's hellboy, he can expertly kill some supernatural bullshit, he can tell what's going on in the power structure of hell, he can take directions on how to do some marine style fuck shit up with on session, but at the heart of it all he's just a big ol jarhead that likes to punch stuff, take a drink and mess around, and he doesn't really give shit about the big stuff or the little stuff, cause he's literally damn near seen it all over and over again, but for things outside of his fields, he's gotta ask a guy, cause he's a grunt at heart, and nigh indestructible grunt prophesied to end the world and beer, and he's not cool with that cause beer and occasionally the world is pretty alright. There's a very real world weariness to the character that Del Toro completely erased in order to make a hellboy the cypher for the audience., while that's great for the movies, for anyone that's read the comics it's literally not even on the same page.
There's an interview with Hellboy's creator that sums up the differences pretty succinctly. And yeah, I mean, the Hellboy character in that second picture is so far away from my version of Hellboy, because you had the whole love-interest thing, which had morphed into this first-year-marriage squabbling kind of thing, which is totally alien to my character. So the Hellboy character did quite a few things in the second film that my Hellboy wouldn’t do. In fact, there was a moment in one of the meetings where I said, “Hellboy wouldn’t do that,” and Del Toro said, “Your Hellboy wouldn’t, mine would.” And that was one of those real moments of, “Oh, that’s right. I’m working on a Del Toro movie. I’ve gotten pretty far away from working on a regular Hellboy thing.” Wired: What are some other big ways that the comics differ from what people see on-screen? Mignola: My Hellboy is much older. Well, I guess they’re both the same age, it’s just my character matured somewhere back in the ’50s and ’60s. And del Toro’s Hellboy, even though they both arrived on Earth in the ’40s, somehow Del Toro’s Hellboy is still a lovesick teenager. My Hellboy is modeled on my father in some ways, a guy who’s been in the Korean War and he’s traveled and he’s done a lot of stuff, and he’s kind of got a “been there, done that” attitude. He’s also been in the world. Del Toro’s change was to have Hellboy bottled up in a room and mooning over the girl he can’t have. With my Hellboy, there were no girl problems. That element of the character was completely not in the comic. But the one thing I’ve been really happy about is that for the most part people who are fans of the comic — despite all those big changes I just mentioned — they’re fans of the movie also. You know, Del Toro didn’t think twice about making all those changes to the character for the film. It was only when the film was about to come out that he started saying, “Gee, I wonder if the fans will lynch us.” And I said, “I just hope they don’t lynch me before I can point them in your direction, because that shit wasn’t my idea.” But for the most part it went down just fine with my audience. I’ve actually only had one guy come up to me and say — which is a weird thing for somebody to say — come up to me and say, “I discovered Hellboy from the film, and then I read the comic, but I like the movie better.” I’m sure there are people who feel that way, but I’ve only had one guy come up to me and actually say it.
Reading all these kind of changed my mind about it. It's nice to see that this is (from what I gathered) going to be more true to the comics. Kind of makes me excited for it, even.
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