• Synthetic alcohol that doesn't cause hangovers or liver damage may be available
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https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/alcohol-hangover-liver-damage-alcosynth-david-nutt-a8841141.html
I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glu-- Drinking, I meant.
I really hope this doesn't become cheap, because if it does, there'll be nothing stopping me from getting drunk every single night. Uh oh.
Yeah but what ARE the negatives? Synthetic something or others might have some really bad negative to them, like an increased chance of cancer. Although I imagine that'd be worth it to some people piss heads, never having to experience a hang over but you have a chance of getting cancer.
Synthehol may be good, but nothing beats Aldebaran Whiskey.
the article says you can't actually get drunk off it. i guess it just simulates the effects of having one drink?
https://youtu.be/8XyDdRvYbfw?t=88
Russia or Finland would be the perfect testing ground for this stuff.
What if it also kills the cancer
Well that sounds fucking ridiculous, it has an increased chance for you to get cancer but also kills it? Jesus just fuck around enough why don't you, damn son.
USELESS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sYJinHOvwM
That's not what it says. It's saying you can basically customize what you want the synthetic alcohol to emulate. You can make it so you get lit at a party or make it give you a light buzz at a lunch. The synthetic alcohol will also allow modifications - meaning you can choose whether you want to feel the effects of a party drink or a drink over lunch with colleagues - but you won’t be able to get drunk off of it.
So much talk about what it does with nothing on how it works.
That's literally what chemotherapy does. Chemo increases chance of getting other cancers. MDMA can cause depression in the short-term, but I've had it a fair few times and have not had it fuck me or my friends up psychologically in the long-term, nor have I read that this is a common phenomenon. However, I think when people talk about how safe something is, they're talking about physical health dangers. LSD has never been lethally overdosed on and MDMA kills people extremely rarely. Most of the deaths from 'ecstasy' didn't even contain MDMA, more often having BZP or PMMA in them, which are a lot more dangerous. Alcohol can damage the liver long-term and is physically addictive, unlike MDMA or LSD. So yeah, I definitely think alcohol is more dangerous.
ive had ptsd after taking too much acid and having a panic attack while i was peaking, but ive also had traumatic experiences from too much alcohol. the difference is that alcohol is physically harmful.
This is amazing. My hangovers are starting to get really bad at the moment and I would probably be dying in 5 years if I did a round of heavy drinking with regular alcohol.
So how exactly will this be different than other psychoactive molecules and how exactly do they plan to get this through regulatory bodies? I don't think claiming something is like ethanol gives you a free pass to sell it like ethanol.
Don't fucking ruin this for me
I can agree that physical liver damage exists, but MDMA can and will cause both long and short term psychological damage when abused.
You know alcohol is carcinogenic right?
Absolutely, but it is not commonly abused because you really have to wait a minimum of two weeks to get much out of MDMA again, as 5-HT stocks in the brain are almost totally exhausted every time you take MDMA and it takes a while for new phenylalanine to fill them back up. No drug is without consequence, but people can't get physically addicted to MDMA, so all else being equal, I'd generally call alcohol more dangerous overall.
Nope, I had no idea, I have a distaste for alcohol so most of the negatives aren't relevant to me.
don't forget that alchohol doesn't stop at the liver, it'll rot out your whole body after long enough. I have an alcoholic relative who had to get entire bones replaced from all the drinking.
It takes extensive, continuous alcoholism to reach this point.
true but i still think it's relevant to the conversation
Not really. That's such a statistical outlier that it's not really relevant to much of anything. Most people drink. That's just a statistic. Most people do not have alcoholism. Some do.
"Synthetic alcohol [...] that doesn't cause liver damage" Yet it admits in the article itself that there is no data on toxicity. GG
I genuinely don't know what a hangover feels like, because, no matter how much I drink, I never wake up with one. But the supposed no liver damage is a pretty big bonus, I suppose.
Keep drinking regularly and you're pretty much guaranteed to get one. They only ever get worse and can end up lasting days instead of just feeling ropey in the morning.
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