Trump says hurricane-hit Puerto Rico has received too much aid
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/26/donald-trump-puerto-rico-hurricane-maria-aid
Trump told Republicans at a closed-door luncheon on Tuesday that aid for Puerto Rico “is way out of proportion to what Texas and Florida and others have gotten”, the Florida senator Marco Rubio said after the meeting.
No aid is "too much aid"
Holy FUCK
Will only happen after 2020 and that's only if Trump loses the election.
He made a direct remark about this last year, "So long as I am president, Puerto Rico will never be a state".
Unironically putting it out there, give it to fucking Canada already. This is deliberate institutional neglect of American citizens.
I don't honestly know who should get it, the dominican republic is pretty bad, making them their own country would also be negligence and bad plus that'd be against their wishes, the brits would probably be bad but not quite as bad as trump I suppose. Statehood is the only way to guarentee they won't be stepped on again
You're just ignoring my entire argument to give Puerto Rico to Canada to moan about how DR and the UK are supposedly crap but "not as bad as Trump" and that pure independence isn't a good idea either. So, ok?
They're going to get stepped on until they get statehood but honestly I don't expect statehood to happen in the next 20 years unless the next president comes from PR.
So literally what is wrong with Canada? We'll give them better health care than what the US has historically offered. We don't have colony territories so it's likely that PR would become a province, not the unrepresented second-class land holding the US seems content to maintain.
"Giving" Puerto Rico to any other nation would cause
A) A citizenship crisis, which would affect me personally as my wife is Puerto Rican
B) Deny the sovereignty of those living on the island to choose their own future.
elix, I honestly thought you meant it sarcastically, not a serious proposal.
Three thousand people died.
Yeah, but were they white, Trump-supporting conservatives though?
I don't feel like it would be responsible to take an island that we've continually fucked over and suddenly cut them loose especially given how they have a strong american identity
Because that's working so well for them right now?
I'm downplaying the massive efforts that would be involved in actually transferring ownership of Puerto Rico, I know, but jesus fuck it's America's latino stepchild they keep locked in the basement.
PR would rather be independent.
You've really gone off the rocker if you are seriously believing Canada should annex Puerto Rico. It makes Trump Derangement Syndrome look like a real thing. I think you should really step back from politics a bit and take a breather.
There is a difference between making the point that PR would be better off in a peaceful transfer to Canada and actually expecting and wanting it to happen. I'm not petitioning Ottawa with my brilliant idea.
Trump is treating America the same way I treat my beloved virtual country of Tropico, only Trump doesn't have to worry about the people taking up arms and storming the presidential palace.
I have a history of half-seriously half-jokingly suggesting the US should give up PR since they neglect it so much and because Canada doesn't have any territory that stays above freezing in the winter. I'm fully aware that PR becoming a Canadian territory is about as likely as Quebec unilaterally separating and courting Madagascar, which is to say not at all.
I disagree because we're a nation of 50 states + territories and over-prioritizing one of them would be an issue
But it can't be said that Puerto Rico has received anywhere near "too much" aid, let alone "enough" aid.
In what possible way would anyone be over-prioritizing Puerto Rico?
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Did you not read what I was responding to?
Did you even read what I said after what you quoted?
At no time did I say anyone was over-prioritizing Puerto Rico. I said the exact opposite.
But I also was responding to someone who said "no aid is too much aid", which I disagreed with.
It seems you think that because I disagreed with him on one facet of his post, I disagreed with him entirely, which is ridiculous.
I read that as if you were responding to the part about him endorsing PR for statehood. You didn't specify what specific part you were disagreeing with.
And, christ, you don't have to be so goddamn condescending about it.
It's upsetting to me to be accused of things that not only do I not believe but I have made explicitly clear I do not believe in the very post that you selectively quoted.
If you had even quoted my entire post you would have realized my stance, but you opted not to.
I asked the question so you could clarify your stance. You did. Problem solved.
There's no need to be so dramatic about it.
Sure, and I asked questions so you could clarify if you had read the posts. You did. Problem solved.
Right?
I don’t fucking understand how even statements like this don’t immediately get him under review.
like he’s actively saying that PR people deserve to not get help
I consider this even more dumber for realistically noticeable reasons, than users begging that thinking Statehood is the only way to go for PR's future, despite the reality, that is being continuously rejected by both two parties and the government for have no interested of give PR statehood since 1952.
and also...
C) For being far away from the Island territory as theirs, and even so the Canadian government already has their own territories in very far-north to put on used in the future.
D) Try to probably reforcing cultural assimilation to the Puerto Ricans more harder than US did, since even under Trudeau's government is more disrespectful to its natives (put Oil pipelines in their land as an example), than under a Republican control government.
This is the funniest thing you've ever written and I don't think you understand why.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nunavut
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Territories
These two remaining territories, your country has left dude, since 1999? I was referring too.
What about them? They're called "territories" but they're provinces in all but name. They have national representation.
What the hell does a bunch of snowy tundra have to do with PR?
Yes in the federal level (by having only 1 MP seat for all them, lol), but not unlike PR and the rest of your country (including Yukon territory), that two of their provincial governments don't have political parties, due of giving its Native Canadians/First Nations wanted to have their own autonomously control without full Federal government's interference nor the nation's politics, and invaded their political lifestyle, are called Consensus government. And all them have they called the 'Commissioners' (A representative from the Federal government) instead Lieutenant governors in the southern provinces where you living, with their Premiers are according from Wikipedia as technically CEOs, and are I guess have limited political power.
Are you supposedly telling me, they aren't real 'territories', to justified of ignoring them by focusing PR and the other American territories?
The US never tried to culturally assimilate Puerto Rico. They only exploited its resources for the first few decades it owned it, and even after that did a half ass job of that.
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