Trump admin to let pork industry inspect its own product
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https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-pork-industry-hogs-plants-trump-regulations-20190403-story.html
The Trump administration plans to shift much of the power and responsibility for food safety inspections in hog plants to the pork industry as early as May, cutting the number of
federal inspectors by about 40% and replacing them with plant employees.
Under the proposed new inspection system, the responsibility for identifying diseased and contaminated pork would be shared with plant employees, whose training would be at the
discretion of plant owners. There would be no limits on slaughter-line speeds.
The new pork inspection system would accelerate the federal government's move toward delegating inspections to the livestock industry. During the Obama administration, poultry
plant owners were given more power over safety inspections, although that administration canceled plans to increase line speeds. The Trump administration in September allowed
some poultry plants to increase line speeds.
These proposals, part of the Trump administration's broader effort to reduce regulations, come as the federal government is under fire for delegating some of its aircraft safety
oversight responsibilities to Boeing, which developed the 737 Max jets involved in two fatal crashes over the last six months.
So not only does he want to make Food Safety a thing of the past, he wants Canada to get all of our food from a nation with inferior food safety laws and regulations?
We're going back towards having the Robber Barrons of the 1920's and 30's, and nothing is going to change that.
Industry self-regulation isn’t necessarily a bad thing, as it’s often in many industries’ best interests to ensure their product is high quality. How regulations (roughly) work in Australia is that first the individual businesses are expected to self-regulate. If that doesn’t achieve the desired outcome, an industry-wide body (but not a government entity) then takes over the regulations. And finally if that still doesn’t work, that’s when the governments step in with eg legislated regulations and government oversight.
Of course the question to ask here is whether pork farmers in the US genuinely have the capacity to self-regulate, or if there is some ulterior motive at play.
slaughterhouses have long been shown to be incapable of self regulation as it takes one single operation ignoring all safety rules to destroy confidence in the entire industry
Literally going into the Sinclair era
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jungle
Anti-vaccine.
For companies “investigating” themselves instead of having proper responsibility and accountability.
are we sure trump isn’t secretly a pile of plague rats in a human suit
trump wants everyone to be as unhealthy as he is
How far are we going to go cutting essential aspects of the system & pretending like economy is going up just to sustain the growing numbers on accounting sheets?
Until he cuts social security out of existance probably.
I love the hell out of meat, but yeah, thats... Thats an easy choice alright.
It is not in the business's best interest to produce high quality pork. It is in the business's interest to produce pork of the absolute minimum quality people can buy, even if it's saleable only because the contamination can't be easily spotted or traced.
This sure worked real great the last time we let the food industry regulate itself.
Next we should let billionaires choose their own taxe-
oh
I'd rather watch this country burn than have to live in anything resemble another gilded age. Those days were about as close as America ever got to becoming a crapsack country.
Yeah I'm not eating Pork anymore
It's in an industry's best interest to ensure their product is the lowest quality it can be without hurting their profits - the higher the quality standard, the greater the expense in achieving it.
Yeah gonna' be avoiding pork from now on, lmao.
Read too much about how this shit used to work before the FDA, that's an absolute nope from me.
I took more time to read into the article and it's pure nightmare fuel, what's worse is that this might be unavoidable as the Trump admin wants to deregulate beef in the same way.
Some highlights
Pat Basu, the chief veterinarian with the USDA's Food Safety and
Inspection Service from 2016 to 2018, refused to sign off on the new
pork system because of concerns about safety for both consumers and
livestock. The USDA sent the proposed regulations to the Federal
Register about a week after Basu left, and they were published less than
a month later, according to records and interviews.
In May 2013, the USDA's inspector general issued a report that found
three of the five plants in the trial program had numerous health and
safety violations. Safety records at those three plants were worse than
those at hundreds of other U.S. hog plants that continued to operate
under the traditional system, auditors found.
This is litteraly putting the saftey of our country and it's citizens at risk for short term greed, until an outbreak happens and we go back to the old system
Congress needs to put the brakes on this ASAP.
2018: THERE'S E COLI IN THE LETTUCE!!!
2019: Hold my sausage
And they fucking want us to buy this shit from them.
Holy fucking shit.
One way path to a massive contamination in meat production.
If you have a local butcher who sources locally, I can't even joke about how you should be using them over the processed and packaged meat you find in stores.
Food poisoning was fun last summer, now I get to have it anytime I want. Yay.
Man my local butcher was fucking amazing, good meat, good guys and they sold a box of six of the largest fucking chickens eggs for cheaper than the tesco's literally next door. As in these eggs were bigger than tesco's cheapest and cheaper too.
But my local council had some real funny ideas... like setting the local business rates to be higher than central London and only allowing butchers to sell ONE kind of mince... so if a butcher sold beef mince they were
forbidden from selling lamb, pork, turkey, chicken or any other kind of minced meat. Reason? Because my local council "didn't trust butchers to properly clean their mincing machines to ensure there was no cross
contamination of meat."
They closed recently... I've nver had a boiled egg for breakfast since.
God this is stupid, our local actually has 3 different grinders they use for different meats, one for pork, one for beef and another for chicken.
They don't get used for anything else and they don't take much space at all, so I can likely bet they're not the only one with multiple grinders.
All get cleaned daily and even if there was anything left on them, there's no way they can cross contaminate as they're separate units.
[tim allen grunt]?
Cross-contamination of ground meat isn't as much of a concern because ground meat is likely gonna get contaminated at any point of its processing by nature of its processing, it's why you should always cook ground meat thoroughly. It's why med-rare burgers are a bad idea. I'd never undercook ground meat from a supermarket, so unless your council also advocates eating ground meat raw then they're the dumbest cunts alive.
as a butchers apprentice, this is a really bad fucking idea. the meat industry sucks at self regulation and will basically go to the bottom of the barrel to cut losses and achieve a quick buck. the quality of some meat i've had to cut was so abysmal i was wondering how the fuck it was legally allowed to be sold
Well, the second amendment people could change it.. I dunno.
Makes sense, even pigs are smart enough to protect others of their own kind.
Just so we're all clear, do NOT eat pork from this point on in the USA
It isn't implemented just yet. We still have a month minimum. Stock up I guess?
Okay, so anecdotal as it may be, I used to work in the dairy industry. My job was to measure the temperature of the milk coming in to the local cheese plant. I was instructed that if the temperature was above 36F, it had to be sent back.
HOWEVER, because the truckers and dairies were paid by the load, I was instructed by my immediate superiors that if the temperature was too high, just make a number up. The first time I told a guy his load had to be rejected, he got super pissed off at me, claiming I was trying to get him in trouble, which is when I received this new order, and because I couldn't afford to lose that job, I had no other option but to comply.
I can guarantee you that if it happened there, it's happening in many other places and industries.
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