Not sure why people are rating this dumb, because it's pretty nice to see a large corporation accept some responsibility for the damage they're doing unprompted and argue for ways to improve the situation.
He's not wrong and raises some pretty solid points I reckon. Australia could legit make more use of roo meat I reckon. Had it before and it goes alright.
I'm totally guilty of it but suspect I could probably get away with having meat almost every day too.
I've had kangaroo meat too. It's pretty nice and has enough distinctiveness that I'd probably buy it more often if it was readily available in the UK.
Maybe because it partly reads like "Stop buying cheap meat, buy our expensive meat instead."
Of course, he isn't wrong with most of what he says though, not sure if it is all out of his heart or trying to sell his book as well.
Because meat is tasty and we dont' want to be told what to or not to eat.
It's not a law and they're not telling you not to eat meat, just that we should probably eat less, both for the health of ourselves and, more importantly, the health of our planet.
this is an incredibly selfish and dangerous view to hold and while i'm glad for most people it's generally restricted to meat I really wish that people didn't latch on to meat like this
That's fine. I don't really care. I eat what I enjoy to eat, and that's a mixture of red meat and pasta. Is it healthy? Is it green? Nope. Do I care? Nope. Would rather enjoy 50 years than spend 80 or 90 of them miserable.
That's wonderful for you but could you consider your fellow man for a minute? And is meat really the only thing standing between happiness and misery for you?
They're literally saying Aussies should eat less meat. I don't see how you can possibly read that and say they're not saying anything else.
Also, I don't really care much about the health or environmental concerns. I'd rather enjoy 50 years of tasty food than 80 or 90 years of eating things that don't taste good to me. Don't care if they taste good to you, it isn't your tongue in my mouth, it's mine. And to mine, green shit doesn't taste good, so I don't eat it.
Unfortunately that mentality is the majority and it's why I have no hope for the future and I have sworn to not have kids purely so I don't have to see my offspring suffer for the sins of people who can't see beyond their own shadow.
I hope you can one day grow on this view but there’s clearly no point in trying to argue with you.
Were going to see mass die offs around the globe because of people with this very mindset. It’s literally too much to ask, it would seem, to have you consider your role in a global existential threat.
That at makes me sad.
Also so I hope you enjoy your relative nutrient deficiencies. I eat meat, but saying “green stuff tastes bad” is like listening to a kid.
I think factory slaughter farming can only be realistically stopped through hard and heavy regulation. I know that moving to a diet that excludes such produce can have some effect, but frankly I feel it's far too small of an increment at this point. Though even the idea of large scale regulation will need major shifts on a governmental level. The methane produced from such production needs to be fought when considering how much of a percentage it fucks our future circumstances, but it's going to need a lot of changes in the oncoming times. I don't know what will be needed to make such a change, but it's going to be needed if there's a will for the many to survive.
‘More regulation’ is a cop-out approach. Government can’t hold society’s hand for virtually every issue, people in society need to take the initiative to eat less meat. Advocacy from this butchery bloke is the kind of thing that we need to see more of.
At the most, governments could levy consumption taxes for meat, in order to discourage its consumption. But there’s no need for any ‘regulation’ beyond that.
The problem is I don't feel like it is going to be on the individual in the end but on those with a hold of power. I think it's a matter of what's for sale and how the current system works. I just feel that pollution is one of a number of things caused by unregulated late stage capitalism. The solution in my eyes is to change such a system. Whether it's change or replacement, I think it's a structural matter on the whole of it.
This is the worldview of a manchild. Not everybody is a short-sighted asshole set out to get you, you're fucking over good people with this lazy eye to eye bullshit and you know it.
I'll grow out of that mindset when the majority of Americans stop voting against things like single payer healthcare and start voting for things like tax reform that shifts the majority of the burden to the people who can actually afford to bear it. As long as the majority of this country continues to vote for policies and politicians that directly screw me over and make my quality of life worse I'm going to continue to not give any fucks about anyone but myself, my close friends, and my immediate family. If they're too short-sighted to vote for policies and politicians that'd not only make my life better, but also improve their own life, then I can't be arsed to give a fuck about their future either.
Also, stop being sad on my behalf. It's no healthier for you than my diet is for me. Worry about the people you can reach out and hug, not some nameless, faceless asshole on a garry's mod forum. Nothing about my life, no matter which direction it ever goes, is going to affect you all the way up there in Canada.
As for the global existential threat? Pfft. I'm not worried about global warming in the least. Unless we see a drastic change in international geopolitics we're gonna be watching mushroom clouds rise over all of Earth's major cities long before global warming bites us in the arse. And yes, I know that's not the techinically correct term, but that's the term I grew up with and the term I'm going to continue to use, so don't bother me about the semantics of it.
I wouldn’t say it is a failure of capitalism, but I would concede that markets may not be sensitive enough to externalities. Typically, undesirable behaviours and outcomes are regulated by society, eg (going off on a tangent here) you don’t need a government to tell you that incest is wrong.
Call me optimistic, but I hope that issues like human-induced climate change and sustainability can at least be somewhat addressed through changes in society. Eg through my own choice and not through coercion, I never eat meat more than once per day, and I aim to never eat meat more than a few times per week. And the reason I do that is interest in sustainability. I also want to move closer to work so I can ride a bike everyday instead of driving, despite my love for cars.
Some externalities clearly need government to also step in, but it shouldn’t be the sole domain of the government to step in and fix everything. Because then you get people like Donald Trump elected, who can throw all that progress out the window. There needs to be diversified responses to these issues, so government, industry and society need to independently do what they can.
Wow what the hell, so attempting to lower our (you&me both) excessive meat consumption means "making your life a living hell" ?
How are you not the short sighted asshole here?
The better society treats me the better I treat society. And right now society treats me like utter shit.
So you're taking out your issues with society onto the environment, which has nothing to do with it. Nice.
So your point essentially boils down to "a lot of people are pricks so I may as well be too even though lots of people are trying to make the world better and I am just serving myself like the arseholes I supposedly have a distaste for." I'm sorry, but this seems really nihilistic.
you're beyond pathetic.
Yes, less. Not stopping completely.
Good good I can't wait for you to grow up and see this post as an adult
Well sucks for you because with the rate things are going you aren't gonna have a choice one day. Once the unsustainable nature of factory farming really kicks in you are going to have a very hard time finding affordable meat.
woah ur cool
Yeah no fucking wonder everybody in the world seems like an asshole when you decide that everybody must be as bad as you. You've figured out that you're a miserable self-centered asshole but don't seem to have put two and two together why the world around you sucks when you project yourself onto everybody else.
I've really come around to regulating meat in my diet properly. I used to basically eat it every day, but a combination of being more world-aware and learning how to cook has me eat it much less, maybe once a week, even less.
It's a really positive change and I still consider myself a very big fan of meat, I think I've just learned how to appreciate it properly.
I'm still guilty of finding anti-meat mindsets generally insufferable, though. There's a lot of (justified) preaching and shaming when it comes to this discussion, which made it harder for me to want to make the change. I think companies acknowledging the issues with over-consumption of meat is a good way to start dismantling that culture.
I used to think when lab-grown meats came more accessible I'd switch to only eating those, and while I probably still will, I don't think I'll ever go back to how I used to eat it. It kinda fucked my diet for a bit.
coulda just rated OP disagree and moved on then
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