• Transgender ban goes into effect
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https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/12/politics/transgender-troop-ban-starts/index.html
Red meat for his base.
good news for thousands of future draft dodgers.....
When a Democrat next takes office, every one of his appointees needs to be purged.
On the plus side.... https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/1883/9dc8c508-1650-4eb2-8f81-632ab598d020/image.png
Makes sense, trans soldiers are simply too powerful for the modern battlefield. They must be contained or we face an apocalyptic scenario. Here's an artist's depiction of what that might look like. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/170685038260649984/566323773050060810/ddddd.png
As per Mattis' recommendations. This was expected, unfortunately.
It's well known that trans people have the ability to end entire civilizations. I know because I watched some Very Rational Youtubers about it. I am glad that someone is finally barring these dangerous menaces to society from taking advantage of our socialized military education!
All jokes aside, this is a huge civil rights violation and needs to be fought extremely hard until it's overturned.
Donald Trump is the commander in chief of the army and has broad executive order authority. The 46th will sign a repeal order the second they get in office. This is Trump doing what his base wants. "hurting the people he needs to be hurting.
assuming that 46 isn't as far-right or trump, or farther
I'm willing to bet it'll get worse. Trump being in power has only emboldened these assholes.
It's also Trump doing what Mattis wants.
This is going to be sounding weird but I just want to know if people would agree with me on this statement : No person willing, and physically able, should be prevented from fighting for their country or the countries and protection of others should they choose to.
Well, Prince Harry was in the British military and many credible sources suggest that he is FTM, and the recent collapse of Britain can only be attributed to this. Evidence enclosed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cnrKsuhOgc Yes, this is real - people are really this retarded.
The ban does have merit under certain circumstances, in the same vein as the military won't take a lot of people for various medical reasons. There's a lot to consider, medically speaking, with being transexual. But not everyone's going to fall under the same bracket, not everyone's seeking the same course, not everyone's seeking a course at all, and anything in between. Gender Dysphoria on its own has 0 fucking bearing on someone's ability to serve
I'm not well-versed in the side effects of HRT and surgery in that vein, but I don't think it's too common for it to hinder one's ability to do everyday tasks and I consider this decision to be entirely rooted in politics.
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/249570/82783349-9a77-4967-b3f8-50b19f52195c/FB_IMG_1555185530198.jpg
The Republican party cannot function without a target. Once gay people "won" in 2015 with Obergefell v. Hodges the target of hate had to move on. I don't know what they'll move to once transgender people are overall accepted.
Blacks and women and muslims.
Democrats
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I'm gonna talk about the other side of this and say that trans people shouldn't want to fight for a country that treats them the way the US has anyway.
talk about missing the fucking point
This reflects the complete lack of protections that trans people get in just about every lot in life. My company could fire me for "being a tranny" and that would be a valid reason. Same thing for somewhere refusing to serve me, etc. This isn't a fantasy, either. I know someone who was literally rejected from receiving any treatment at the only local doctor's office because they tried to get hormones administered.
I get that you're probably trying to play devil's avocado right now but having government-sanctioned marginalization is definitely not the way to go. This is in the same vein as arguments like "Trans people shouldn't want to work at places that would fire them for being trans" or "Trans people shouldn't want to live in towns that would attack them for being trans". It shifts the blame away from the assholes to the targets and makes it out like there's nothing to be done about people being hateful freaks about things people can't change because of their own inadequacies and insecurities.
I never once said that the ban was in any way a good thing. Only remarking that in a country as ass-backwards as the USA, trans people really shouldn't want to serve.
Poor wording on my part, I didn't think you were saying it was a good thing and didn't intend to accuse you of saying such. But your statement is still extremely ignorant of the situation. Bigots want people not to bother, they want people to feel powerless, they want them to be quiet, unseen, and disorganized so that their atrocities can go unnoticed by the public at large. It's been like that for decades now. Please do some research before you start making blanket statements about what minority groups should or should not want to do in the face of oppression.
No, I wouldn't say the United States is one of the easiest places among English speaking countries. Among much of the civilized West, the United States has fallen far behind other countries like Canada and the UK, because of the influence of the barbaric GOP and their voter base. But otherwise I see your point.
He's just making a snide remark about the state of the Gov't. If you want to direct your anger somehwere, direct it towards the people that actually support this. You're just lashing out at someone for poor wording.
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