The definitive Star Trek Voyager torpedo inventory log
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIGxMENwq1k
Voyager gets too much hate imo. It's not my favorite Trek, but it sure as shit isn't as bad as some people claim it out to be. Janeway, Tuvok, and Doctor really carry the show and had it's fair share of fun episodes.
I haven't watched in 15 years, but i remember the theme song to it. It was top notch.
hey it certainly could be worse
IT'S BEEN A LONG ROAD
This isn't really that bad, its fair to say they could have fabricated more torpedoes considering they built things vastly more complex.
Still my problem with this show was that it was basically too comfortable and too easy for the crew to traverse the delta quadrant, it made it seem more inconvenient they were stranded. Year of Hell was a great look at what could have been imo.
Pretty much every trek fan knows this, but he was suppose to die too. They kept him around because his good looks boosted the ratings.
Yeah but what about the Photonic Cannon?
Seriously though they probably got the materials to make new torpedoes from the many planets and groups they helped along the way. I can't imagine they had enough food for the entire journey, even with the trash and toilet systems being 100% efficient recycling devices.
Yeah, we even had episodes where they traded for food with various species, it's pretty likely that they traded for materials as well.
Yeah this whole video is a bit pointless considering voyager's replicators were advanced enough to replace entire damaged sections of the ship given enough time and energy. I mean there's the famous quote of "There's coffee in that nebula!" when the crew are looking for an energy source to keep their food synthesizers going.
voyager wasn't terrible as a whole, but holy fuck were the low points low
i don't think anything will eclipse tom paris turning into a fish lizard, kidnapping janeway, then turning her into a fish lizard too and getting her pregnant with weird fish lizard babies
On the other hand when Voyager hit, they sometimes hit spectacularly.
This scene from Timeless stuck with me hard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loabw7p83WY
That scene was either nominated, or won an Emmy for Visual FX, I don't recall.
I wish we got that season-long year of hell, that would have been incredible.
I was really interested in hearing more about the alternate, longer return that was only briefly referenced in Endgame and erased by time fuckery. It sounds like it was 23 straight years of hell. I'm surprised there have never been any books or anything written exploring it.
i thought the issue with the show was.
Episode 1: Force Enemies to get along as a star ship crew and somehow maintain a chain of command
Episode 2: Oh everyone gets along now.
I always thought that idea was really interesting, obviously it couldn't spam the whole show but I kinda would have prefered if it stayed around for more than the first episode.
I feel like, if Voyager had never happened, a "hardcore" vision of Voyager would do fucking amazing on Netflix-style streaming services, where the season just drops all at once and you decide how fast you want to consume it. Imagine a Voyager series that begins with a season of figuring out how to make this ragtag-ass crew get along without a) killing each other, b) self-destructing the ship to keep the others from controlling it, or c) using it as a weapon of war on undeserving races after some faction is the first to hack the access codes to the Compressor phaser rifle locker and escorts the surviving chain of command to the brig. This weary trust-on-a-pinhead slowly builds the whole time because everyone's rescuing everyone else while the ship's going from emergency to emergency, and it's pretty much Year of Hell from end to end for three or four seasons of intense gripping space drama with a climactic feature-film length finale. That'd really hit the spot right now.
Except that's starting to sound a bit like Discovery, same very broad idea (a darker Trek than we're used to taking risks no previous series had tried) but there's just so much wrong there. Maybe it's better that we at least got the Voyager we did, the good and the bad.
It's also important to remember that back then Paramount was very attached to Gene Roddenberry's boundless optimism in his vision, and Voyager premiered only three years after he died. I mean, sure, "optimism" when there constantly had to be fucked-up shit for the Enterprise crew to either find or get attacked/ambushed/trapped by, but it was that or else there isn't much drama in your prime-time space drama. Humanity had surpassed the wars and strife and fundamental problem of want that had been with us ever since our origins in the savannah, and we achieved a communist utopia on Earth where everyone's fundamental life needs are accounted for and everyone's purpose in life revolves around making a thing or doing a thing that somehow betters humanity (except for the misfits who turn out bad for whatever reason). We travel the stars, even in Captain James T. "punch 'em or off-screen fuck 'em or maybe both" Kirk's day, to better humanity's understanding of the universe, not as warriors but as scientist explorers (but very often warriors for the sake of being a TV show).
I could see Paramount going "uhhhh you want to what" when the writers hypothetically asked them to bet an entire season's budget, and the future of the show, on an entire season worth of Year of Hell.
I always thought a good way they could have had more continuity while still keeping that Trek Optimism by having them gradually assembly a rag-tag fleet of ships interested in the Federation or looking for a home, as well as other stranded Alpha Quadrant ships.
But that third panel is from the episode where the replicator malfunctioned and made coffee without the coffee mug. You can even see the coffee everywhere!
jOKE RUINED
https://youtu.be/dFlFe-Tix0k
While we're on the topic of Voyager supercuts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwZiezIxCVU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md3dHyZJG9E
That exists in the form of Battlestar Galactica (the 2004 one), which is legit one of the best sci-fi series ever (at least for the first two and a half seasons). Ronald Moore, the main director, worked briefly on Voyager but left because of creative differences with Brannon Braga. In some sense, Battlestar Galactica is his take on Voyager done right.
For two years. Then BSG got all political and went right down the shitter.
Voyager was not a particularly great show either.
My problem is BSG is too far in the opposite direction. Everyone is always miserable all the time on that show, which is fine, but it’s too miserable for a Star Trek series.
Both of these complaints are fair. Still, I hold that for the period when it was good, it was among the best - unlike Voyager.
Besides, elix was asking for a hardcore version of Voyager. Although perhaps BSG is to steeped in misery, it seems to fit the bill.
BSG pretty much hit that bill; and then it stopped making the distinction between a political show and a show about politics; basically the difference between showing and telling.
Voyager had a great cast and a solid premise, tended to go off the rails in overall themes and situations.
what
He's not joking, that's literally an episode.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz8wXCNyqbM
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