• Immigration officials looking into housing migrant children at Guantánamo Bay
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/guantanamo-bay-migrant-children-us-immigration-trump-border-a8883511.html?utm_source=reddit.com The United States is considering housing migrant children at the US military prison at Guantanamo Bay to help handle an up-tick in the number of immigrants crossing the US southern border, according to a new report. The idea was first proposed earlier this year as the Department of Homeland Security looked for military facilities where migrants could be held as they wait for their cases to be processed. But, the proposal has not gained much traction so far, with officials telling the New York Times that the idea has been less ideal because of the optics involved with housing children right next to terrorism suspects in the notorious American prison. The New York Times reports that there are no “immediate” plans to actually bring children to Guantanamo Bay, and that the base has only been brought up as a potential housing location because it has dormitory facilities that have been used for asylum seekers in the past.
Nope. Uh uh. No. Not happening. Today it's immigrants, tomorrow it's citizens.
Jesus fucking christ why. CMUs and Chicago PD Torture, look both of those things up on Google, and go down the rabbit hole.
I imagine the mindset of this decision was. "How much can we scare the immigrants by saying we'll throw the children into Guantánamo Bay?"
what the hell
I bet that's exactly what it was. Also "we hate brown people."
The people looking into this should be housed at Guantánamo Bay.
Put Stephen Miller in Guantanamo.
The whole thing should be picked up and put in the middle of Washington DC with a big plaque commemorating the time we decided the law was too inconvenient for our liking. It took only a few months to create it but it will be a black stain on the US for decades to come
"If they're fleeing into our country because they're afraid of cartels, let's just act like a cartel."
A new low, truly. If they actually do this, I don't even know how to respond. It's so disgusting and inhumane.
Hey, I remember a few years ago when I was arguing in a news thread with someone who ridiculed any comparisons between Trump and Hitler. "Haha are you stupid?" he chortled, "as if Trump is immediately gonna start putting immigrants in camps as soon as he's inaugurated." He didn't seem too interested in the way it took 10 years to go from harsh policies to industrial slaughter. ...And now here we are.
if they do this its almost certain Cuba will do something in response.
"But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions would have been sufficiently shocked—if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ’43 had come immediately after the ‘German Firm’ stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ’33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D. "And one day, too late, your principles, if you were ever sensible of them, all rush in upon you. The burden of self-deception has grown too heavy, and some minor incident, in my case my little boy, hardly more than a baby, saying ‘Jewish swine,’ collapses it all at once, and you see that everything, everything, has changed and changed completely under your nose. The world you live in—your nation, your people—is not the world you were born in at all. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves; when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. Now you live in a system which rules without responsibility even to God. The system itself could not have intended this in the beginning, but in order to sustain itself it was compelled to go all the way. I'm not happy about how often this feels relevant and how that's only happening more often
Wait so are immigrant children war criminals now or uhh?
Apparently the US gives Cuba money to lease Gitmo every year and Cuba send the cheque back.
worse, according to wikipedia at least, they're all stuffed in Castro's desk like Jerry Seinfeld did with his grandmother's cheques
this is how you create terrorists
That's the point
true enough, given the current state of the GOP. fear is a weapon, etc etc
This post contains slurs Like seriously, this is just how fascist regimes do. You create an enemy, you demonize some already marginalized group, you position them as the interloper, the attacker, the thief, the lazy welfare stealer, the taker of jobs, you convince people that someone else is coming to take everything you have. You position yourself as the only sane voice, the only one willing to stand up and TELL THE TRUTH and the only one with the BALLS to stand up and defend OUR PEOPLE™ and you destroy the conversation around it while you deliberately break the system as you capture more and more of it so you can set the stage yourself for all the things you hold up as proof. You push policies that deliberately and aggressively target your marginalized scapegoat group. You push them into poverty and isolation. Deny them basic and essential services. Rob them of any kind of safety, stability, sanity, and then you police them aggressively, to show off how you're the Big Strong Guys who are Doing What Needs To Be Done, and then you dump hundreds of them in prison, and if they ever so much as defend themselves you take that as absolute proof that you were right all along and whip your gullible majority into an even bigger frenzy and seize even more power. Dump hundreds, thousands, millions of them into violent prisons and use them as free labor while the soaring incarceration rates serve as even more Totally Accurate Proof!!!! That you were right all along and these people are fucking animals who need to be locked up, people need to be protected from them. They're just No Good. Bad Apples. Juden, Untermensch, Niggers, Kikes, Wops, Greasers, Chinks, Slantheads, Zipperheads, Gooks! The Bad People! The Enemy! Bad Hombres! They're just Like That! And I'm not racist it's you who's racist! We're just bein' honest with ourselves! Just look at the numbers!!! It doesn't matter that we're directly responsible for literally all those numbers and it's a great big lie, you're just putting American Lives at Risk! Tough on Crime! Buzzwords! And where do you go from there? What's the logical endgame here? Really take a minute and fucking think. Think back to literally every genocidal, fascist regime in history that has followed this exact same god damn pattern It's something that requires constant escalation. Every new power grab done in the name of Fighting The Great Enemy to Preserve Our Nation, intentionally or not, is leading up to the big moment. The only logical endgame for a supremacist ideology, and this kind of ideology absolutely is supremacist, and it absolutely is the end point. It's extermination Because why the fuck wouldn't you? You've already taken every step beforehand and you've already spent all this time painting these people as subhuman garbage. Wastes of space, wastes of resources, entirely irredeemable, entirely without value as real human beings. All they can ever do is take. They're little better than vermin. They can't ever be trusted to be anything else. The second you give them an inch they'll just take another mile and we'll all be right back where we started!!!! We already threw out the idea of reform, we already threw out the idea of peace, coexistence, integration. You don't even have to read between the lines, it's all spelled out the bones of the dead. In Poland. In Germany. In Russia. In Czechoslovakia. In Armenia. In Cambodia. In Rwanda. There's no shortage of genocides throughout history They all started the exact same way The system itself could not have intended this in the beginning, but in order to sustain itself it was compelled to go all the way It is compelled to go all the way because this entire song and dance is based on escalation. What's the most logical endpoint for a supremacist ideology? When you've positioned yourself as the only race worth a god damn? If every other untermensch dog is just going to keep taking and taking and taking and raping and killing and stealing and looting and pillaging if left to their own devices, what options are you really left with? Especially after you got here by positioning yourself as the grand and righteous defender of Our Race And Nation? What are you meant to do? Just abandon the crusade half done? Let them run rampant over the rest of the Earth? Isolate yourself from the problem? Plug your ears and hope it goes away? Hope everyone forgets all the rhetoric you used to get where you are? Put the genie back in the bottle? Close Pandora's box? Give the gods their fire back and call it squaresies? Just tell all those people you've spent the last five, ten, twenty, thirty years that it's all finally over and done with and we can all relax? While all of Those People are still out there? How many options do you think are really left at that point?
If they do this, we won't hear about it for a while. It could start tomorrow for all we know.
If you support Trump fuck you tbh
Maybe the second amendment people can do something about this, I dunno.
Are SS Officers... I meant US Officials going to waterboard... oops meant hold children with terrorists?
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